The price rise hit prisoners seeking bottled water as temperatures eclipse the 100 degree mark in unairconditioned facilities. The state vendor asked to raise the price and two state agencies signed off.
Americans have a punishment boner when it comes to the legal system. They don’t want to prevent crime or improve society. They want the bad people to suffer.
I’m definitely no libertarian, but I do have one quibble with this - entirely private prisons are actually very little of the prison space in the United States. However, government run prisons do hundreds of millions of dollars in business with private vendors for things like the commissary and healthcare and phones &c., and all those businesses gouge taxpayers and inmates for substandard goods and services, because they’re able to negotiate sweetheart contracts with government bureaucrats who don’t give a shit and get lobbied like crazy (vendor salesperson: “Oh, your annual salary is only what? Ha, I’ve gotten commission checks higher than that! Let me get the tab for our lunch today.”).
So it’s a bit complicated but at the end of the day underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what’s caused all of this, so the solutions to these problems aren’t going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.
I will admit that Texas has a lower percentage of private prisons than I thought, but I think any for-profit privatization of prisons is bad.
underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what’s caused all of this
💯
so the solutions to these problems aren’t going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.
Y’know, you had a bit of a point with your first comment, and I can definitely sympathize with getting frustrated when you’re trying to talk about serious issues and it feels like people aren’t listening to you (and I don’t know the history you’ve had in this community with that), but I don’t think you’re doing your ideas any favors with this
FFS, he already KNOWS I’m a libertarian, regardless of what I actually am.
Not sure how you got that I was calling you a libertarian. I was agreeing with you that Texas sucks at prisons. And adding context that we suck at it by being somewhat libertarian about it by replacing what should be a public service with for-profit privatization.
I mean, with how our system works I’d bet this company (Commissary vendor Royal Pacific Tea Company) and TM share some investors at least, but this sort of thing is not unique to Texas prisons or limited to commissary fees.
Charges for water?
Do they disclose the cleaning fee after checkout or right in the beginning? What about the convenience fee?
Are Texas prisons run by Ticketmaster?
Americans have a punishment boner when it comes to the legal system. They don’t want to prevent crime or improve society. They want the bad people to suffer.
Ted Bundy wished he was being ‘punished’ by this system instead of fried.
Ah yes. It’s better than being dead. What a low bar…
@VanillaGorilla @gAlienLifeform
Texas prisons are run by someone even worse than Ticketmaster.
They are run by Texas.
Well, Texas loves private prisons, so many aren’t run by the state. This is another disgusting example of how libertarians get it wrong.
I’m definitely no libertarian, but I do have one quibble with this - entirely private prisons are actually very little of the prison space in the United States. However, government run prisons do hundreds of millions of dollars in business with private vendors for things like the commissary and healthcare and phones &c., and all those businesses gouge taxpayers and inmates for substandard goods and services, because they’re able to negotiate sweetheart contracts with government bureaucrats who don’t give a shit and get lobbied like crazy (vendor salesperson: “Oh, your annual salary is only what? Ha, I’ve gotten commission checks higher than that! Let me get the tab for our lunch today.”).
So it’s a bit complicated but at the end of the day underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what’s caused all of this, so the solutions to these problems aren’t going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.
FYI: the „et“ in etc. is Latin for „and“ so it’s redundant to say “and etc.”.
Oh yeah, I think I knew that at one point and then forgot it, thank you for reminding me
I will admit that Texas has a lower percentage of private prisons than I thought, but I think any for-profit privatization of prisons is bad.
💯
Exactly.
Removed by mod
Y’know, you had a bit of a point with your first comment, and I can definitely sympathize with getting frustrated when you’re trying to talk about serious issues and it feels like people aren’t listening to you (and I don’t know the history you’ve had in this community with that), but I don’t think you’re doing your ideas any favors with this
@gAlienLifeform
This was me recognizing that I was arguing with someone that had already decided what the answer was.
FFS, he already KNOWS I’m a libertarian, regardless of what I actually am.
Further talk would be a waste of my time. While I’m no one important, my time *is* important to me.
Source: I’ve been on the “internet” since the compu-serve cb chat days. The people don’t change, just the access method.
Very cool, but please refrain from personally attacking people in this community. Thank you (:
@Thekingoflorda
I edited it, so everyone thinks I believe him to be a swell guy.
I already deleted the message I was referring to (;
Oh, and you don’t have to @ people for them to get a notification (:
Not sure how you got that I was calling you a libertarian. I was agreeing with you that Texas sucks at prisons. And adding context that we suck at it by being somewhat libertarian about it by replacing what should be a public service with for-profit privatization.
@[email protected]
I mean, with how our system works I’d bet this company (Commissary vendor Royal Pacific Tea Company) and TM share some investors at least, but this sort of thing is not unique to Texas prisons or limited to commissary fees.
Worst, Air bnb