Except for supporting the genocide of Gazan children, sure.
Don’t get me wrong, if my only options are a vindictive Orange wannabe dictator, and Biden, I’m still voting for Biden…but fuck, his support for Israel’s genocidal crusade is really fucking bad.
His support of Israel is consistent with American foreign policy writ large since 1947. That people want to place the ongoing genocide at his feet betrays the success of GOP and foreign propaganda, to wit: The absence of American support for Israel would not stop the genocide, and the position of the Biden administration in Israel and Gaza is the same as any other presidency, historical, hypothetical, or imaginary. That is, any US president would have the exact same policy, including Donald Trump, any other president in the last seventy-five years, and anyone who ever had a realistic chance at the Oval.
That’s because a US-Israel alliance, even in the presence of reprehensible acts by Netanyahu’s government and the IDF, is still better for the US, and arguably global stability, than any alternative. The best we can hope for, from any president, are calls for restraint and ceasefire, both of which Biden have made. Abandoning Israel as a US ally would be a disaster for the entire region, and more importantly it would make no difference whatsoever to the Palestinian people.
I don’t think the policy is morally good. But it’s rational. Criticizing Joe Biden for the genocide is like criticizing a commuter for their vehicle’s emissions. Yeah, things would be better if they were different, but Israel-Palestine isn’t a problem Joe Biden can solve in the real world.
Yes, let them continue the genocide if they must, but as an American it makes me absolutely sick to know my taxpayer dollars are funding it. Biden is perhaps the most Zionist president in American history, and is largely responsible for the current state of affairs by providing cover for Israel and preventing the UN from performing peacekeeping duties.
Stop sending them money and bombs. Not another dime until they end the occupation. Palestine belongs to Palestinians, period.
This is spot on. Politics is all trolley problems. Biden is the one pulling the lever and there are certainly fair criticisms to be pointed at the set of actions taken within a realpolitik approach to this, but this relationship can be stretched or stressed, not broken. If it breaks, the humanitarian crisis to follow is magnitudes worse than the current conflict.
Time will condemn your words, and you. These are evil words, it is an evil position you take. No justification exists for the support of the acute execution of genocide. Whatever crisis you prognosticate by the breaking of the US, support for Israel has other means of mitigation.
Holy shit, is this someone who actually understands how foreign policy works AND you’re getting upvotes? There may be hope after all.
But seriously, if you read between the lines, the Biden administration has had some of the hardest rhetoric towards Israel in decades. It sounds very minimal in a vacuum but saying things like, “we might stop sending actual weapons and only infrastructure support”, is a huge step whether anything is actually done or not. It is very much a threat. The government in Israel absolutely knows what it means as well.
Say you don’t understand political nuances without actually saying it lmfao. “Why can’t we just change things when bad stuff happens” bc brother it is a fuckton more complicated than that.
Biden did not need to proactively circumvent congress to support Netanyahu’s genocide, and “we’ve always done it this way” is a shitty justification for supporting genocide.
Tell me you never want to change the monstrous status quo without saying it.
Stow the “your feeble mind can’t comprehend our advanced ways” horseshit. If you could defend supporting genocide, you wouldn’t need the gaslighting.
When Congress is constantly like half Republican, and then another portion of Democrats are basically neocons or populists, we’re left with a small percentage of progressives and liberals who want to actually make the country better
Yeah, Biden’s legacy is simply that he’s not Trump.
That’s a very important thing, though. I wouldn’t put it past Trump to fully pull out of Ukraine without notice for Putin if he were re-elected. Then we’d be talking about millions of dead children, and all of their parents as well.
Except for supporting the genocide of Gazan children, sure.
Don’t get me wrong, if my only options are a vindictive Orange wannabe dictator, and Biden, I’m still voting for Biden…but fuck, his support for Israel’s genocidal crusade is really fucking bad.
His support of Israel is consistent with American foreign policy writ large since 1947. That people want to place the ongoing genocide at his feet betrays the success of GOP and foreign propaganda, to wit: The absence of American support for Israel would not stop the genocide, and the position of the Biden administration in Israel and Gaza is the same as any other presidency, historical, hypothetical, or imaginary. That is, any US president would have the exact same policy, including Donald Trump, any other president in the last seventy-five years, and anyone who ever had a realistic chance at the Oval.
That’s because a US-Israel alliance, even in the presence of reprehensible acts by Netanyahu’s government and the IDF, is still better for the US, and arguably global stability, than any alternative. The best we can hope for, from any president, are calls for restraint and ceasefire, both of which Biden have made. Abandoning Israel as a US ally would be a disaster for the entire region, and more importantly it would make no difference whatsoever to the Palestinian people.
I don’t think the policy is morally good. But it’s rational. Criticizing Joe Biden for the genocide is like criticizing a commuter for their vehicle’s emissions. Yeah, things would be better if they were different, but Israel-Palestine isn’t a problem Joe Biden can solve in the real world.
I’d say cutting out hundreds of millions of dollars in weapon exports would do a hell of a lot to slow it down
Yes, let them continue the genocide if they must, but as an American it makes me absolutely sick to know my taxpayer dollars are funding it. Biden is perhaps the most Zionist president in American history, and is largely responsible for the current state of affairs by providing cover for Israel and preventing the UN from performing peacekeeping duties.
Stop sending them money and bombs. Not another dime until they end the occupation. Palestine belongs to Palestinians, period.
Israel has never been this bad during our period of close alliance, and it’s making us as Americans less safe to stand with them.
This is spot on. Politics is all trolley problems. Biden is the one pulling the lever and there are certainly fair criticisms to be pointed at the set of actions taken within a realpolitik approach to this, but this relationship can be stretched or stressed, not broken. If it breaks, the humanitarian crisis to follow is magnitudes worse than the current conflict.
Time will condemn your words, and you. These are evil words, it is an evil position you take. No justification exists for the support of the acute execution of genocide. Whatever crisis you prognosticate by the breaking of the US, support for Israel has other means of mitigation.
Holy shit, is this someone who actually understands how foreign policy works AND you’re getting upvotes? There may be hope after all.
But seriously, if you read between the lines, the Biden administration has had some of the hardest rhetoric towards Israel in decades. It sounds very minimal in a vacuum but saying things like, “we might stop sending actual weapons and only infrastructure support”, is a huge step whether anything is actually done or not. It is very much a threat. The government in Israel absolutely knows what it means as well.
“That’s the way we’ve always done it” is a monumentally shitty justification for supporting genocide.
Say you don’t understand political nuances without actually saying it lmfao. “Why can’t we just change things when bad stuff happens” bc brother it is a fuckton more complicated than that.
Biden did not need to proactively circumvent congress to support Netanyahu’s genocide, and “we’ve always done it this way” is a shitty justification for supporting genocide.
Tell me you never want to change the monstrous status quo without saying it.
Stow the “your feeble mind can’t comprehend our advanced ways” horseshit. If you could defend supporting genocide, you wouldn’t need the gaslighting.
There are a handful of US politicians who don’t support Israel. There’s too much money and regional interests to do otherwise
Guess theres only a handful of good US politicians than.
ding ding ding
When Congress is constantly like half Republican, and then another portion of Democrats are basically neocons or populists, we’re left with a small percentage of progressives and liberals who want to actually make the country better
I swear, it feels like it would only make sense that Mossad has something on so many of these folks.
Like videos on little st james island?
Yeah, Biden’s legacy is simply that he’s not Trump.
That’s a very important thing, though. I wouldn’t put it past Trump to fully pull out of Ukraine without notice for Putin if he were re-elected. Then we’d be talking about millions of dead children, and all of their parents as well.