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  • The on and off suppression of minority languages in the USSR is one of the saddest black marks against it, and it sucks to see China seem to fall into those pitfalls. Hell you go back to the early 2000s late 2010s and even lib outlets are writing semi-positively about China’s encouragement of minority languages.

    Also this linguist wrote a paper that I now really want to read but cannot actually find but the abstract is

    Although Mao Zedong (1893-1976), the long-time leader of the Communist Party of China (CPC), was the main creator of Mao Zedong Thought, he was not the only one, so references to Mao Zedong Thought may involve works other than those written by Mao. One of the many significant issues in Mao Zedong Thought is minzu, usually rendered into English as “nationality” or “nation.” The term has two different meanings. One is the collectivity of ethnic groups that make up a nation-state, specifically China. The other is the individual ethnic groups, or “minority nationalities” (shaoshu minzu) within the larger nation-state. This paper will analyse how these meanings interrelate and the complexities of how the concept of “nation” operates within the Chinese state in the context of Mao Zedong Thought. The Chinese state recognizes fifty-five minority nationalities or ethnic minorities, with the process of identification being all but complete by the time Mao Zedong died in 1976. Mao Zedong was sympathetic to the notion of ethnic self-determination and respect for the cultures and languages of ethnic minorities, but only with the proviso that it did not lead to ethnic separatism. There has been a revival of ethnic identity in China since the reform period began in 1978, which accords generally with concepts found in Mao Zedong Thought. The great majority of members of ethnic minorities are happy to belong to the Chinese nation-state. There are potential and in a few cases actual contradictions between the notion of a multinational unitary nation-state and ethnically driven identities. Nevertheless, the paper’s central argument is that these contradictions are not now, and need not become, so acute as to threaten the survival of a united China. Mao Zedong Thought has mostly been entirely consistent with harmonious ethnic integration.

    Colin Mackerras who’s work seems to be very pro-China from a glance.

    This paper goes into more depth though is broader in focus.

    https://sophia.repo.nii.ac.jp/record/2015079/files/200000015345_000011000_1.pdf

    Edit ok this guy is so based, when Xi visited Australia for the first time he specifically thanked him

    On Monday 17 November 2014, Chinese President Xi Jinping gave an address to the Australian Parliament as a major part of his visit to Australia. Towards the beginning of his address, President Xi thanked Colin for his friendship and dedication, drawing applause from those present. This was a very proud moment in Colin’s career.


  • Remember that France stops every attempt to non-French languages teachable in state schools. So Breton cannot be taught to kids in Brittany unless it is a private school, when an attempt was made to work with Breton language schools the constitutional council said it violated the constitution. They do have bilingual state schools, but that is not teaching the language as far as I can tell.

    A plan to integrate Diwan (and its immersion style) into the public school system was signed in May 2001 by the Minister of Education, Jack Lang, and several agreements were worked out with the French Education system during the spring and summer of 2001 concerning the nuts and bolts of putting all this into place.

    Just as things were starting to jell for the budgeting of teachers and facilities to be fully in place for the opening of the Fall 2002 school year, the French government (Conseil d’Etat) suspended this agreement for public integration of Diwan. This was in part due to pressure from a federation of public school teacher and parent organizations who feel that the immersion system of Diwan “attacks the principle of equality and unity of the [French] Republic.”

    A sticking point for those who seem to confuse uniformity with unity of the French state is the French Constitution which states in Article 2 that “French is the language of the Republic.” Diwan’s immersion system of teaching through the Breton language appears to be against the French Constitution. This constitutional argument also blocks France’s adoption of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. This Charter was signed by France in May 1999 but is yet to be ratified so that the meager protections it affords to languages like Breton can be put into place.

    In a December 27, 2002, decision on this matter, the Constitutional Council clearly stated that the immersion style of teaching Breton is contrary to the Article 2 of the French Constitution. Here’s how the Council states things: “The usage of a language other than French cannot be imposed on students in establishments of public education in the operation [life] of the establishment or in teaching subjects other than the language in question.” This not only eliminates the use of Breton as the language for playground or cafeteria communication, but also as a language used to teach math, science or history-a restriction which could also impact regular public school bilingual programs where such subjects are taught through the medium of Breton.

    It is the immersion system of using Breton as the medium for all activity at a school that is troublesome. Yet, it is this use of Breton for the life of the school that so effectively allows the youngest children (preschool and primary school) who do not come from Breton-speaking families to master the language and use it naturally. The whole point of enrolling one’s child in a Diwan school is to get such immersion (which is chosen and not “imposed”). Thus any proposal for public school integration that compromises this is not acceptable to Diwan.

    Diwan has proven that its pedagogical system is a success. The challenge for continued growth is financial. Many teacher’s salaries are covered in a “contract” with the French State which puts Diwan in a “private school” category despite the fact that it charges no tuition and operates as a public institution open to anyone who wants to enroll. Whenever a new school is opened (and Diwan continues to grow each year) it must wait for five years before it can come under the “contract.” Thus, there are currently over a dozen teachers whose salaries must be raised by fundraising. Because of its “private school” status, there have also been limits placed on the contribution of building space and public monies to support Diwan schools - no matter how willing and able a particular town and population may be to support a Diwan school. Thus, the financial challenges remain very high for Diwan to open new schools to meet the demand of parents and students.

    Comrades, if you ever think you hate the French too much or even adequately, you don’t. You can and should always hate them more. It is a cultural or at least linguistic genocide, and now that I think about it, probably these laws are the same basis that France uses to discriminate against “separatist” ideologies IE “Islamo-Communism” or whatever Macron called it.

    https://icdbl.org/diwan.php?chapter=future