Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.
“Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…
Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.
Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?
Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.
I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.
weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.
The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don’t mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.
I mean they never even got banned from .ml, but here’s a sample of other places they’ve been kicked out of, so this isn’t really making the case for authoritarian mods on .ml tbh
I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying “no one should be killed for the color of their skin” is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.
Dude, chill. I got banned from hexbear for literally the exact same reason. Who cares? Let them run their own instance the way they want. They’re blocked and you don’t have to look at them anymore.
Authoritarian racists exist and want to murder you, welcome to planet earth. First day?
A reminder why under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered by the working class.
Or, you know, play the classic .ml card of pretending you don’t know what we’re all talking about
Literally the only complaint of substance I’ve seen in this entire thread is people who want to be allowed to use slurs
Literally every single comment I’ve seen of yours boils down to “Oh come on, EVERYBODY says so!”
It’s almost as if you know you’re in friendly territory so you don’t actually have to have any meaning behind your words. You’re free to use them as your playthings /sartre
More often than not someone when complains about getting banned and I bother to follow up in the modlog it turns out that they got like a 3-7 day ban for acting like an complete asshole. Then they proceed to vague post about it months later despite the ban being long over.
Most of the time, yeah. But there have been enough other cases over the past couple years that I wouldn’t put too many eggs in that basket (or any for that matter).
There’s nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.
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ROFL! The .ml rage is clearly on full display here.
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You’re clearly upset. Maybe it’s best to let this rest.
“Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…
Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
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Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is
The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don’t like what you see, that’s a you problem not .ml’s
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Dramatic 🙄
Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?
Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.
I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.
Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.
Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.
weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.
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got any better examples?
The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don’t mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.
Nailed it.
You haven’t even had any mod action taken against you on lemmy.ml from what I can tell.
Plenty of other instances that you do use have banned you for racism and trolling though.
This one from hexbear was really funny:
You are unwittingly making their point for them. Hilarious!
Do you actually have any points or thoughts or is it all just mugging to the audience with you?
I mean they never even got banned from .ml, but here’s a sample of other places they’ve been kicked out of, so this isn’t really making the case for authoritarian mods on .ml tbh
I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying “no one should be killed for the color of their skin” is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.
I am so glad I blocked their instance.
link?
Dude, chill. I got banned from hexbear for literally the exact same reason. Who cares? Let them run their own instance the way they want. They’re blocked and you don’t have to look at them anymore.
Authoritarian racists exist and want to murder you, welcome to planet earth. First day?
A reminder why under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered by the working class.
So you admit to paying 0 attention?
YePowerTrippingBastards on my home instance is a good starting place, have fun
Or, you know, play the classic .ml card of pretending you don’t know what we’re all talking about
Literally the only complaint of substance I’ve seen in this entire thread is people who want to be allowed to use slurs
Literally every single comment I’ve seen of yours boils down to “Oh come on, EVERYBODY says so!”
It’s almost as if you know you’re in friendly territory so you don’t actually have to have any meaning behind your words. You’re free to use them as your playthings /sartre
More like I consider anyone who pretends not to know what we’re talking about as a willful idiot not worth taking seriously
I don’t have time to deal with those who deny reality, be it MAGA shitstains or blind tankies
It’s hard to keep up with all the reality you’re inventing
More often than not someone when complains about getting banned and I bother to follow up in the modlog it turns out that they got like a 3-7 day ban for acting like an complete asshole. Then they proceed to vague post about it months later despite the ban being long over.
Most of the time, yeah. But there have been enough other cases over the past couple years that I wouldn’t put too many eggs in that basket (or any for that matter).
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