• HobbitFoot
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    3 days ago

    Exactly. It isn’t just the right getting propaganda to support Trump.

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      3 days ago

      You don’t blame the scorpion for killing the frog, it’s in its nature.

      Everyone with a brain can see Republicans are violent hateful monsters. That goes without saying, which is why people focus on the people who are supposed to kill monsters but are for some reason helping the monsters.

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        Tthat’s the reason people are calling out specific reps and individual Dems.

        Most of the reason people are calling out Democrats as a whole is to discourage people from voting at all.

        I can’t overstate how important primaries are. That is where you get a choice within the party.

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          I can’t overstate how important primaries are. That is where you get a choice within the party.

          Thank god we get those and they aren’t rigged or have SuperPACs outweighing the community they’re meant to represent. Right? …R-right?

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          Yep. It is fine to call out the four Democrats and get them primaried. It isn’t fine to say all Democrats are bad because four Democrats out of the 200+ caucus voted for this.

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            Now someone’s going to come in and helpfully explain rotating villain as though that’s the case every single time.

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            If they fight against the party every time someone gives them the money to do it maybe they should fucking get kicked out of the DNC.

            The Neoliberals who control the DNC are allowed to kick out whoever they want, but instead the party supports traitors and keeps them around. Becuae they are a convenient excuse to block real progress that idiots will always keep falling for.

            Sorry but the Democratic party is totally impotent, and that is something you should be blaming the entire party for. That goes for the traitors, the leadership that tolerates them, and their peers who agree to prop up an impotent party.

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              If they fight against the party every time someone gives them the money to do it maybe they should fucking get kicked out of the DNC.

              I’d agree with that in some cases. Not Manchin, though that ship has sailed.

              the Democratic party is totally impotent

              Yeah, they don’t have the House, they don’t have the Senate, they don’t have the White House, and they don’t have the Supreme Court. They have no real power right now. If you don’t give them the votes, they can’t do shit. That’s how a Democracy works. And when they do get some votes, it’s 50-52 seats in the Senate, with a couple of those being tenuous.

              I agree Obama shouldn’t have been so naive as to think he could be bipartisan. I agree that they’ve had opportunities in the past that they’ve missed. But it sure doesn’t seem like the party as a whole is malicious. Who saw Sinema coming?

              If you want to change the party, vote in primaries. Don’t tell people not to vote. Don’t tell people both parties are the same; they’re very much not.

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                The Democrats are impotent even when they had a supermajority

                Also the only people allowed to have their names show up in the primary are hand picked by the party, and the DNC/RNC are private organizations who don’t legally have to hold a fair primary or even hold one.

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                    I vote everywhere I can.

                    I also am capable of processing reality and human history.

                    Fascists don’t get voted away.

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                    “I wish Democrats were better candidates to defeat Republicans”

                    “Then go vote Republican.”

                    You’re not exactly sure how opinions and voting work, are you?