• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Or maybe you want a strongman who will protect you until they don’t.

    Are you seriously doing the Tough Independent Rugged Real American LARP here? what-the-hell

    Did you build your own home? Do you repair your own roads? Do you check your own food for botulism? doubt

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      I was noting that the failure of the disaster response seems to be due to local government officials failing in their job.

      What is the responsibility of a larger government entity for the governance of cities?

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        Presenting a oh-so-large-its-scary government entity assisting locally during a disaster as a bad thing is certainly a take. joker-amerikkklap

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          The federal government can assist, it just needs local permission to do so.

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            The federal government can assist, it just needs local permission to do so.

            This skews awful close to typical AM radio “the SHERIFFS need to have DIRECT CONTROL of the counties to BRING LAW AND ORDER back to THE STREETS” chud rambling. Local isn’t always better, especially not in Sundown State petty tyrannies with echoes of the Confederacy.

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              And the federal government is mobilizing to assist, but they aren’t going to be in the initial response.

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                What does any of that dialing back of your tough independent American rhetoric have to do with this?

                Or maybe you want a strongman who will protect you until they don’t.

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                  I wasn’t giving you a tough independent American rhetoric, I was explaining how American government works and you took it as something else.

                  Federalism is baked into how the USA governs itself. I can’t explain disaster response without noting who the lead government agency is.

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                    I wasn’t giving you a tough independent American rhetoric

                    I was explaining how American government works

                    Yeah it works through tough independent rhetoric as domestic policy as an excuse to neglect and fuck over people with a thin veneer of that neglect being for their own good.

                    Federalism is baked into how the USA governs itself.

                    That’s the fancy word for the alienated independence ideology that drives the incompetent and neglectful system, yeah sure.

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        It’s the responsibility of the larger government entity to step in in some cases. Like in the cases of natural (or semi-natural) disasters or if the local governance shits the bed to the extent that people are dying. We’re not dealing with free imperial cities of the Holy Roman Empire here, cities aren’t sovereign entities they’re administrative regions for the government.

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          But how long does it take to figure that out? A few days?

          This isn’t the Holy Roman Empire, but the bureaucracy isn’t as fast as people think it is and the initial response is still expected to be lead by the state. By the time it becomes apparent the federal government should step in, the response has already failed.