• motherofmonsters [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It’s very hard for me to square that idea that trump is an existential threat who must be stopped by any means necessary, and the notion that Biden is allowed to do anything legally.

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      Obama murdered a 16-year-old who wasn’t even accused of a crime and got away with it, but I guess the rules are different when the victim is Muslim

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      I tried to explain this to libs back in 2018ish. If Trump is a fascist, why would voting him out do anything? Ya’ll are either being hyperbolic, or you’re being cowards.

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        Trump is a fascist, but that is because everyone in the U.S. government follows the logic of fascism, because neoliberalism is just fascism without the campy outfits. He just not a systemic-ending fascist.

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          The issue is he’s an anti institutionalist corporate oligarch, which in a vacuum is neutral and par for the course, but in this case, one of the few things keeping America from completely coming apart at the seams are the institutions who want to make sure arsenic isn’t in kids’ toothpaste and shit.

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            So is your bog-standard Republican. All of Trump’s initial appointees were bog-standard Republican, and the only got wiggy by the end after everything had been gutted(something btw that Biden hasn’t actually done anything to fix in the interim).

            The only thing that Trump is bad at is the kayfabe of DC politics.

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              That’s what P25 aims to fix.

              Also there was a ton of brain drain. Competent people don’t want to come back knowing that they might just get fired / made miserable under the next R President, so it’s hard to even fix these institutional problems in 4 years

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                Then it’s never going to happen! If the Democrats aren’t ready by now, they will never be ready. There is absolutely no way in this system to guarantee that power doesn’t change hands between the parties. Especially after Bush v. Gore, and the latest Supreme Court mandates. The train only goes one way.

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        yeah, the decision says exercises of constitutional authority have immunity. they’re /presumed/ to be official acts. so if assassinations are covered by the president, he’s free to kill off his political enemies.

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          As commander in chief, ordering military objectives is a constitutionally declared duty of the president so it seems very clear to me as that’s a conclusive constitutional duty. This line seems relevant: “[…] President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclu- sive constitutional authority”

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      the obvious rules based liberal solution to trump is fucking divest presidential powers, instead of giving even more expansive executive meow-tableflip