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Piment [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to memes@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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And this is why I left the left

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Piment [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to memes@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c

FT article about it if you’re interested

Edit: archive link

https://archive.ph/MtRm3

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  • Barx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The guy behind all of this is an Italian Marxist historian. His work is actually great. It’s fascinating, often hilarious, and explicitly designed to piss off nationalists.

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      I just imagine a bunch of puffed up americans running around going ‘Eyyyyy where’s da fuckin’ pizza we in italia ain’t we huh?’

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    The Italian government applied for Italian cuisine to be a UNESCO World Heritage Site

    How the hell can mid food be considered a place? Italians proving once again to be the most annoying euros

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      food from italy isnt mid, you just think that because “italian”-americans call shit american food “italian”

      Death to America

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Are you Italian?

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          no im from the us

          Death to America

          • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            It’s mid because it’s mid shrug-outta-hecks idk what Americans have to do with it

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              Live in Mediterranean. Wheat is staple grain. wut?

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      If they make Italian cuisine a World Heritage Site before they declare video games to be a World Heritage Site I’m gonna be so pissed

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Gamer Gulags before then hopefully 🙏

  • SadArtemis [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Don’t worry anti-italian-action you’ll always have gabagool

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    Pizza is Iranian (not joking earliest information about dish that was described to look like pizza are from Achaemenid Empire)

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      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        Most likely. This would still be somewhere in the fertile crescent though, not in Italia.

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      • Vampire [any]@hexbear.net
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        and it’s not a big leap to put stuff on top of it

        Nobody thought of putting anything on bread until the singular genius of the Earl of Sandwich.

        Great Man Theory of History.

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      Pizza is Turkish!!! 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷

    • Vampire [any]@hexbear.net
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      Wheaten dough with tomato on it post-dates the Columbian Exchange

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        deleted by creator

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    USA once again sweeps the cultural appropriation Olympics

    • Piment [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      It is an Italian marxist professor who claims this though bordiga-despair

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        Is the argument that traditional Italian pizzas are expensive and eaten for an occasion and only the rich can afford to regularly eat woodfire pizzas while American slices are proletarian food?

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          No, the argument is that Pizza was a southern italian proletarian food:

          Before the war, Grandi tells me, pizza was only found in a few southern Italian cities, where it was made and eaten in the streets by the lower classes.

          Someone else is gonna have to work out how that makes it not italian.

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            Ew, gross, Sicilians? Definitely not Italian. 😤

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s anti-italian-action who gives a damn shrug-outta-hecks

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    Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download a copy of the video file instead.

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Okay howndid you do that?

      • ∞ 🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        Click the “upload image” button and choose a video?

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          👆

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          Huh never thought of it. Thanks!

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    How to enrage Italians with this one simple trick.

    I don’t care where it came from I wanna shove a slice in my mouthhole.

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    unironically correct. pizza was imported into the US with immigration from italy, primarily southern italy, at the end of the 19th century and then became more popular in italy than it ever had been during and after ww2 due to influence from american GIs stationed in italy

    Death to America

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    Next you’ll tell me that spaghetti and meatballs isn’t italian at all rage-cry

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      That’s Chinese which makes it Californian ergo

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    First they went after the legacy of Columbus and now this anti-italian-action

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Bro obviously Israel invented pizza. They needed something to put the cherry tomatoes on top of

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    When contemporary concepts of pizza just about require tomatoes as an ingredient, which come from the Americas cope anti-italian-action

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    Having flashbacks to being in Germany, ordering pasta and a salad (maybe a seafood salad… it was a long time ago) from an Italian restaurant that delivered, and getting an aluminum baking pan with hot vegetables and tentacles.

    Never figured out if i was being messed with or not. The pasta that I also ordered was chefs-kiss though.

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    I remember reading that FT piece, it made me realize how much of a meme italian “traditional” cuisine is

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