• _core@sh.itjust.works
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    This tweet assumes people care about OPs opinion, or histories opinion. It’s a toothless threat trying to invoke some Boogeyman of future retribution. Anyone who voted for Trump is going to be doing the Jennifer Lawrence “ok” reaction to this.

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      I’ve family that voted for Trump. Had plans on spending Thanksgiving there. Told them I’m not coming, and told them why. Explained that I’ll be happy to apologize if the next four years goes well. Otherwise, I’m holding them accountable. I love them, but I will not associate with them.

      I’m done with the “they’re family, you have to accept them.” Bullshit.

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        I warned my wife if her dad makes the mistake of showing his bitch ass face to me again he’s dead, she was smart enough to already know

        Fucker already literally threatened my life twice before on top of all the other horrid shit he’s done, and now he knows hes not allowed near his favorite daughter or he’s pig food

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      And should things turn around and the overwhelming consensus somehow turns against Trump (seems highly unlikely currently), people will just lie about having supported him.

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        And all the fucking clowns that decided to stay home will still try to claim the moral high ground by claiming they supported neither.

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          The dnc leadership are the real clowns here. They set up this no-win hostage situation and now the hostages are dead and people want to blame everyone except Biden and Harris for it.

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      So why bother having you’re own morals and opinions, is what you’re saying.
      No thanks.

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    Cool, none of them care. They’re all gloating. You can judge people all you want, but they won’t do what you want if they have real power over you. You want to make them care? Get power.

    In the course of history, what do we know of those who “judged” the people who won? We don’t know much, nor do we care. How about we focus on winning, then it will matter who we judge.

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    I judge you for your literal inability to detect hostility and scams.

    We have SO MUCH EVIDENCE that Trump is a Russian asset who Russia has Kompromat on (see American Kompromat by Unger). We are at war with Russia and previously were at war with them for decades. And we don’t think Putin wants revenge? Look at what happened to Navalny.

    Everything Trump wants is deemed harmful by experts. Almost as if he’s a foreign fucking asset harming the US as much as possible in a proxy war. He has a history of violence, abuse, and grifting. How can people be so naive? Literal wolf in wolf’s clothing with neon signs saying “I’m a wolf and I will eat you.”

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      Everything Trump wants is deemed harmful by experts.

      See that’s the problem. “Experts” is a bad word to people like this because it makes them feel stupid in and inferior.

      That is their problem, of course, but they have made it all our problem.

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      Both 2024 and 2016 were total punts by the Democratic party, elections that could have easily been won in large margins, but defeat pulled from the jaws of victory in a way that seemingly only they can.

      People know if they live in battleground/swing states. And still, the fact is that despite Trump getting FEWER votes than last time (which is an election he LOST, by the way), he WON this time, simply because millions of blue voters in those key states decided they’d rather not vote at ALL, than vote for the Democrats’ candidate.

      There is no excuse for the results of either of these elections, honestly. It’s fucking embarrassing.

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      An unusual counterpoint. The ‘krompomat’ the Russians wasn’t really proven, and at this stage I think if they threaten him with releasing whatever Trump can just go ‘LOL like I give a fuck. You seen the shit I did to their face? They still voted for me!’

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        Unger’s book is extensive and quite established. He is a journalist.

        And all narcissists care about is their ego. He gives so many fucks.

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    Many of those people could have been swayed to vote democrat if the democrats fucking addressed the actual fucking issues and actually gave them a damn narrative to go by. Saying everything is fine when nothing is fine and the Republicans are constantly screwing them over (while also 100% deflecting ALL blame elsewhere) is delusional at best.

    Also fuck AIPAC.

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      I’ve done a lot of posts critical of the posture and actions of the Democrat Party and their whole “If you don’t vote you’re voting Trump” propaganda (which are right there in my post history with lots of for and against votes), but as I see it the point being made by this tweet is different.

      I don’t read this tweet as being about people who didn’t vote at all because the present day Democrat party, Democrat Candidate and Democrat President’s actions didn’t appeal to them (which is what seems to be responsible for the Democrat loss), I think it’s about people who actually explicitly voted Trump (so, none of that “implictly voting Trump if you don’t vote” bollocks but actually putting their vote on Trump)

      And I absolutelly agree with this tweet: that man is a complete total worm - in everything from what he’s done to what he says and even his body language - and on top of that was offering scapegoating and hate as policies.

      I can get it that some people couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the Genocidal ethno-Fascist supporting, pro-Oligarchy hard-right Neoliberal, slimy snakesoil salesman liar Democrats, but anybody actually voting Trump is not simply distrusting of or dissapointed with the modern day Democrat Party, they’re active supporters of an even broader and deeper kind of nastiness.

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        While reading the beginning of this comment, I thought I had actually witnessed a “genocide joe” moron admit they were wrong… But nope.

        Never gonna happen, is it?

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          Clearly in your mind people can only be one of two things: for your tribe and all it stands for or against your tribe and all it stands for.

          This is exactly the same simpleton take on human beings and Politics as far-right muppets such as Trumpists have.

          It’s not surprising you called me moron: Psychological Projection is also another trait of simpleton tribalists.

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    Well… I do judge them for their choice in political party when that party’s entire platform is built up on those things.

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    My plan is to simply avoid ALL contact with MAGAs unless I’m forced to work with them. The same way you would avoid a meth-addled pit bull.

    I’m not going to let them think their point of view is “fine” by pretending to be civil to them. It’s not.

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    Trump voters won’t care about any of that shit until it impacts them personally. My family is moving from Indiana to Maryland because of this election which is really going to obliterate grandparents’ time around our kids. Sucks for them we refuse to stay in a state that would actively destroy our kids’ education and wellbeing. They can shell out whatever massively inflated airfare it’ll cost them to come visit us in a place we can actually feel safe.

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      Maryland is wonderful… you’ll love it. I’m working on getting out of the South and back up north to the mid Atlantic

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      Wait until you’re the grandparent and see how it’s different then, and how would you’d think then

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        Maybe the grandparents shouldn’t vote to directly harm their own grandchildren, and actively destroy their futures. Just a thought.

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        Sounds like gramma and grampa voted Trump, so maybe next time they’ll make better choices. It’s too late, of course, but that’s the bed they made.

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        Yes the warped perscrptive informed from 50 years ago, when you had no choice but to trust the TV and newspapers, not like the world has changed since then.

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    It must be easy for the Dems to blame the voters and call them XYZ because it affords them the opportunity of not having to change. If the voters are the problem then you don’t have to do anything different and continue down the same path.

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    I judge them for being the most gullible dumbasses in the history of the world. How stupid you have to be to believe the shit that Trump says?

    These are just the dumbest and most simple-minded people in the country.

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      Yup. Communication requires effort on the part of the sender and receiver. I reject the premise that anyone needed convincing by the Dems. If simply seeing the candidates speak wasn’t enough, that portion if the electorate is not putting in the slightest effort to understand. There are many motivations for wilful ignorance. There were perhaps other explanations for Trumps win in '16. This time it’s just that America would rather have a convicted felon as a president.

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      I never judge people who got scammed or tricked or whatever. It happens. But getting scammed by one of the dumbest people on the planet is almost an achievement. I’m not even hyperbolic here, i have not seen a person making so much mouth noises and saying so little at the same time. That guy tricked you? Not even a smart and charming guy? Pathetic.

      People always wonder why Vince McMahon get away with all his shit. And i did too, because i kept up with his monstrosities for quite some time. But even watching his netflix documentary, and knowing what an absolute monster he is, i just could not help but finding him weirdly charming. I don’t know what level of charisma he’s blessed with but it’s almost creepy. Donald has absolutely non of that.

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    Meaning that if they are ever held accountable, they will say they never voted for Trump and burn anything that could ever indicate so.

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      This is the third fucking time Democrats have run with an establishment candidate.

      I voted Harris but I knew she was a shit candidate and not who we needed to go against Trump. She couldn’t even primary ffs.

      The DNC is squarely to blame, every time people blame the voters and nothing fucking changes. You can’t keep putting up generic neocon establishment hand-picked candidates and expect turnout.

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        every time people blame the voters and nothing fucking change

        I blame all the voters that were fine with voting for Trump first, because they looked at that shit stain and thought he would be acceptable as the leader of the country. The people that voted for him are the problem.

        Harris still did a terrible job, sure. But a literal pile of dogshit should have been a preferable option to Trump.

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          No I think it’s time to look inwards now. The only people to blame is ourselves and the trust we put into the DNC. They have broken our trust over and over again. It’s fucking time to rip the bandaid off and just focus on organizing and rooting out the people and issues that led to this failure in leadership. I don’t think I’m being dramatic in saying: they have completely failed us and robbed us of a secure future. I’m young, and this supreme court and all the shit to come is going to haunt me until the day I die. I’m fucking livid.

          Maga has done the hard work and organized. We aren’t entitled to rule with no leadership.

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      Genocide is a redline for me, though I understand why to many Harris voters the mass slaughter of people halfway across the world is a non-issue.

      Edit: “If you were able to overlook a genocide and cast a vote for Harris, you already know how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism and vote for him.” – Historian Robin D.G. Kelley

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        Of course it’s a fucking issue! Do you think it will be better now that Netanyahu got the person be wanted in the white house?! My god how short sighted are you!

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        Well thank God you stopped that regular genocide from happening from a first term president who we can leverage public support against if she wanted a second term… And instead transformed it into a much faster and crueler genocide by a second term fascist who openly said we will never vote again and who wants to deport 25million Latinos out of this country (also a genocide fyi).

        You guys really helped out those people in Gaza, sure thing. Look at how much you achieved. Next you’ll vote for mass gas chambers instead of individual lethal injection because you’re against the death penalty.

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        Your stance strikes me as performative. As everyone’s lives are getting harder, including the people you claim to be prioritizing, that’s okay because at least your hands are clean. That’s the most important thing to you, that everyone knows you personally are pure.

        The majority of the blame lays with the DNC, the GOP, and those that voted for Trump. But you will also share a portion of the blame, even if you deny and refuse to take responsibility for it, we all lay it on your shoulders anyways.

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        Why on earth do you think Trump is going to result in the slaughter of fewer of those people?

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          I don’t so I didn’t vote for him. But I wasn’t going to vote for the party that enabled the past 400 days of genocide and then sent Bill Clinton to explain to voters in Michigan how 40,000 dead Palestinians is not enough, either.

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            It would have been amazing if you had an option of a third outcome, but the reality is you didn’t. Life is full of situations where you have to pick between things that are both distasteful. But the trolley problem illustrates that opting out to avoid it is not an option at much as you try to convince yourself that it is.

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    All aboard, everyone! Set sail on the S.S. Righteous Indignation…

    America is in a tight spot right now. Claiming moral highground does nothing to help the situation.