• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      6·
      5 days ago

      I just wish it were nutritionally any good for us.

      Corn is:

      • Liquid Sugar Replacement (worse than sugar)
      • Starch (higher calorie, difficult to digest)
      • Cattle Feed (they also can’t digest it, leading to gut rott)
      • Fuel (can’t eat fuel)

      But I can down several bags of Frito Lays Cornchips. Honey BBQ Twists are the bomb. If they sold those in family or party size I’d probably have fatty liver disease.

      • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
        5·
        5 days ago

        Yep basically no nutritional value besides providing glucose. It’s why people in South America whose diet has been mostly corn and corn based products are super short.

      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
        5·
        5 days ago

        (worse than sugar)

        Eh, that’s not settled science. It’s terribly complex and we don’t really know.

        There’s some research that seems to suggest all sugars are really bad for you, even those from fruits.

        I’m any case, any added sugar is for sure bad for you.

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 days ago

          Added or not, sugar is bad for you. You can get liver disease by eating fruit.

          That said, processed sugar is worse because it is more easily taken up by the body and makes the insuline response worse.

          Also, processed food is bad for you on top of sugars.

  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    5 days ago

    Making vodka from potatoes (instead of grain) was so awesome that the woman who did it became the first female university professor in Sweden.

    Edit: no it wasn’t Martha Stewart you fucking idiot

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
      13·
      5 days ago

      the definition of vegetable is very vague. anything from a plant can be vegetable.

      i personally prefer using words like root, leaves, fruits and nuts, but strawberries put that to the test

      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
        3·
        5 days ago

        Anything from a plant can be a vegetable

        Is bread a vegetable because it is made of wheat?

        Edit: you can downvote me but you’re still incorrect. It isn’t vague and potato is objectively not a vegetable. Same goes for grains like wheat, corn, and rice.

        • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
          13·
          5 days ago

          You’re also dumb and wrong from the very loose culinary definition btw, potatoes aren’t a grain, they fall under the “root VEGETABLE” category along with beets, carrots, onions etc…

            • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
              14·
              5 days ago

              So you might be arguing with the wrong person if you want to pull culinary technicalities. When I open my copy of Escoffier Le Guide Culinaire to page 498 I find Potatoes listed in the vegetables section

              But wait, let me check my copy of Jaques Pepins Complete Techniques ah, okay, on page 323 he describes potatoes as “a versatile vegetable”. Maybe The Joy of Cooking? Ah, here, on page 245, under vegetables, and a root vegetable puree recipe featuring potatoes. Fascinating…

              I’m afraid I don’t have a copy of the CIA textbook currently though I’m fixing that soon, and my Japanese cooking technique textbooks don’t specifically categorize potatoes. Want me to get back to you when I can borrow a copy of Modernist Cuisine from my chef friend?

                • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
                  9·
                  5 days ago

                  “Starch” isn’t a plant categorization at all, stupid. In fact, pretty much any source you can find will tell you potatoes are classified as a vegetable, and while most veggies are lower in starch, a great many are considered starchy vegetables, Including peas. A vegetable having starch in it doesn’t make it a starch. That’s like calling Cabbage a fiber instead of a vegetable, because it has a bunch in it.

        • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
          7·
          5 days ago

          Tell that to the National Potato Council. Potatoes may take the place of grains in some dishes, but that doesn’t make them a grain. Radishes, beets, turnips, and other tubers may also be used as a starchy base for a dish, but I doubt you’d question the legitimacy of them as vegetables

          • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
            2·
            5 days ago

            Culinarily, you can define vegetables using the basic food groups. Grains and starches are a distinct group and not part of the vegetable food group, despite the fact that they come from plants. It is easy to see that not all food that is plant-based is, culinarily, a “vegetable” when you consider things like fruits and nuts, which people have no trouble distinguishing from vegetables.

            And yes, many things we culinarily consider vegetables actually fall under the scientific definition of fruit, and some “fruits” do not fall under that definition.

            • Stovetop@lemmy.world
              11·
              5 days ago

              Starches are just something a vegetable has, though, not something they are. Like protein and fiber.

              If you exclude anything with starch from being vegetables, you’re also excluding beans, squash, lentils, carrots, peas, parsnips, corn, etc.

                • Stovetop@lemmy.world
                  6·
                  5 days ago

                  I think the distinction you’re thinking of is when something is milled. Wheat is milled into flour. Rice is milled to remove the husks. Corn is milled into meal. At that point you’re not eating the plant, you’re eating a processed plant product. Of those three, corn is the only one that can really be eaten as-is, so perhaps the distinction of when it’s a grain or a vegetable is more about if it was dried and milled first.

                  But all of that seems unrelated to potatoes, which are roots. You can make bread out of potatoes, and I don’t think anyone would try to argue that potato bread somehow counts as a vegetable. But a potato on its own, minimally processed and eaten relatively whole, seems to fit the definition of a vegetable by most definitions, culinary or otherwise.