• tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
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    5 hours ago

    I don’t get how people can call out every tiny problem of the sequels and prequels then just gloss over all the trash in the originals.
    Star Wars is fun. It’s way more fun if you don’t think about too much.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    My only real problem with the sequels is Last Jedi, Rian Johnson needed a plan outside of “subvert expectations!”

    There’s nothing wrong with doing a movie where “Okay, now I’m going to do the opposite of what the audience thinks I should do!”, but it really should be your own IP, it’s not an experiment you should run during the middle part of an important trilogy for a franchise so well-renowned that

    Force Awakens - A re-telling of A New Hope that brought the franchise “Back to basics” after all the weird shit the PT did (Weird, but not unwelcome)

    Rise of Skywalker - Beautiful film, wonderful ending to the story, I just wish Finn did more outside of yell Rey and have his scenes and romance with Poe Dameron cut to appease China.

    Last Jedi… feels like a decent film, that belongs in a different trilogy than the other two.

    Really there’s not many Star Wars things I actively hate, but the ones I do include Book of Boba Fett

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      Subverting expectations also needs to serve a purpose. If you have people use a window instead of a door to get in a house, it subverts expectations, but if nothing comes from it then it’s meaningless. Most of TLJ feels like subversions that don’t actually change anything.

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    7 hours ago

    Sure but do you not agree there is major gap in quality and substance?

    Some people like beer so much they would drink bud light.

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    8 hours ago

    I like the prequels for the backstory and world building in an era we hadn’t known about yet. But the only redeeming thing about them is the show the clone wars. Without it, it would be a huge mess.

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      3 hours ago

      Clone Wars gives a lot of necessary context that just isn’t there otherwise.

      Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith suffer greatly by feeling like the 1st and 3rd movie of a trilogy that we just don’t have the second part of, so Clone Wars bridging that gap (and giving Anakin character development so that his fall to the dark side means something beyond “Emo former-slave farmboy has bad dream and goes on killing spree”, seriously Anakin sucked before Clone Wars redeemed him.)

      I like Phantom Menace, but it’s too heavily disconnected in the timeline from the other two movies in the trilogy for it to really work with them, which is funny because if you ask me what my favorite Star Wars film the list would be.

      Occupying Slot #1 - All of them for different reasons Occupying Slot #9 - Attack of the Clones

      Honestly I think in a decade or so we’ll come to see the sequels become beloved much like the prequels were, and for similar reasons (younger genreation that grew up with them, memes, and media that fills in plot holes now existing)

      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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        2 hours ago

        I doubt the sequels become more well thought of. It’s already been 5 years from ROS a decade from TFA and nothing has really changed in a positive direction.

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      8 hours ago

      The clone wars makes more of a mess of the prequels than the movies on their own IMO.

      In general the show was mid, the last two seasons were alright but that’s it. And to be fair they were limited by what they could tell or explore in it, and they probably did the best they could, but tartakovsky’s version will always be the superior one in my eyes.