Half of the Reddit libertarians aren’t even proper atheists anyway. They do that weasely shit of being like “I’m an atheist but I’m a cultural Cristian.” Whatever that means.
Culturally christian is bullshit, but “christian atheist” is a useful term.
My subconscious underpinnings, view towards self and others, are so heavily wrapped up in the lens of protestant Christianity. Of course, I reject the homophobia and sexism that these types may identify as part of the “culture”, but otherwise the term itself can provide a lot of use.
One instance that comes to mind is the love of martyrdom in the West. It is identified with liberalism but that as well is identified with whatever bourgeois changes were grafted onto Christianity.
Yeah, I think it can be useful to understand that the cultural milieu that Westerners exist in is based on Christianity even when those Westerners aren’t Christians- and that their worldviews reflect that. I thought that the word for that was cultural Christianity and that the nu-atheist use of it to signify alignment with reactionary Christians was new?
In the past they pretended they supported western style secular diverse societies where lgbt people could live and everyone could do their thing. It was used as a pinkwashing bludgeon against the rest of the world to justify imperialist actions.
Now what is it? They have no moral superiority to hide behind. Their “cultural christianity” is walking back all social progress.
Isnt “culturally Christian” just celebrating Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter because it’s the cultural traditions they grew up with, while not being religious?
I can confirm. ALL the people I know who did this nu-athiest shit either: 1. woke up and stopped being lame, or 2. Became christo-fascists who now embrace all aspects of the culture “war” as their sole identity and purpose.
Tongue-in-cheek, I like to say that “A cultural Christian is an atheist who says ‘God damn it.’” It’s different from how most Redditors use the term, but I think it fits.
I’ve seen this used as a critique, where all the western chauvinist colonial brainworms that are present in Christianity are still present in atheism even though the theological justification isn’t there (and many of those atheists considering themselves morally superior to the Christians that they repudiate).
I think in my lifetime I saw Dawkins say he was culturally Christian just after the invasion of Iraq, and it seems much more a declaration of his “side” and a rejection of Islam, but I think it became more common to say about yourself around the same time gamergate atheists became tradcaths.
Yeah I remember Jordan Peterson saying he didn’t believe in Christianity but thought that everyone should pretend it’s real anyway because “It creates social order”
I though JBP avoided that conversation a lot because he had half his audience as reactionary atheist gamers and the other half reactionary Christian gamers and didn’t feel like losing a substantial portion of his audience by endorsing either (that said, he’s said a lot so maybe both things are true)
it seems much more a declaration of his “side” and a rejection of Islam, but I think it became more common to say about yourself around the same time gamergate atheists became tradcaths
“Are we jokes to you?”
Half of the Reddit libertarians aren’t even proper atheists anyway. They do that weasely shit of being like “I’m an atheist but I’m a cultural Cristian.” Whatever that means.
“Cultural Christian” means they celebrate all the late stage capitalist consumerism that is holidays, and they enjoy neo-colonialism.
Culturally christian is bullshit, but “christian atheist” is a useful term.
My subconscious underpinnings, view towards self and others, are so heavily wrapped up in the lens of protestant Christianity. Of course, I reject the homophobia and sexism that these types may identify as part of the “culture”, but otherwise the term itself can provide a lot of use.
One instance that comes to mind is the love of martyrdom in the West. It is identified with liberalism but that as well is identified with whatever bourgeois changes were grafted onto Christianity.
Yeah, I think it can be useful to understand that the cultural milieu that Westerners exist in is based on Christianity even when those Westerners aren’t Christians- and that their worldviews reflect that. I thought that the word for that was cultural Christianity and that the nu-atheist use of it to signify alignment with reactionary Christians was new?
What is a cultural christian anymore?
In the past they pretended they supported western style secular diverse societies where lgbt people could live and everyone could do their thing. It was used as a pinkwashing bludgeon against the rest of the world to justify imperialist actions.
Now what is it? They have no moral superiority to hide behind. Their “cultural christianity” is walking back all social progress.
These people are dying out as a group.
Isnt “culturally Christian” just celebrating Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter because it’s the cultural traditions they grew up with, while not being religious?
I can confirm. ALL the people I know who did this nu-athiest shit either: 1. woke up and stopped being lame, or 2. Became christo-fascists who now embrace all aspects of the culture “war” as their sole identity and purpose.
Total cringe shit.
That’s it. I’m being Christian but culturally atheist
I think this is just being a non-practicising Catholic
Tongue-in-cheek, I like to say that “A cultural Christian is an atheist who says ‘God damn it.’” It’s different from how most Redditors use the term, but I think it fits.
I’ve seen this used as a critique, where all the western chauvinist colonial brainworms that are present in Christianity are still present in atheism even though the theological justification isn’t there (and many of those atheists considering themselves morally superior to the Christians that they repudiate).
I think in my lifetime I saw Dawkins say he was culturally Christian just after the invasion of Iraq, and it seems much more a declaration of his “side” and a rejection of Islam, but I think it became more common to say about yourself around the same time gamergate atheists became tradcaths.
Yeah I remember Jordan Peterson saying he didn’t believe in Christianity but thought that everyone should pretend it’s real anyway because “It creates social order”
I though JBP avoided that conversation a lot because he had half his audience as reactionary atheist gamers and the other half reactionary Christian gamers and didn’t feel like losing a substantial portion of his audience by endorsing either (that said, he’s said a lot so maybe both things are true)