back-to-me stalin-pipe chairman fidel-wut juche-rose uncle-ho hoxha-turt honecker-interesting tito-laugh xi “Are we jokes to you?”

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    yeah anyone who judges a group by its redditors is simply too online. most atheists are just minding their own business and not posting on r/atheism lol

    besides if the worst thing atheists do is be cringe online, that still pales in comparison to the worst things religious people have done (untold amounts of war, imperialism and genocide) plus they’re also cringe - at least Christians sure are

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      Culturally christian is bullshit, but “christian atheist” is a useful term.

      My subconscious underpinnings, view towards self and others, are so heavily wrapped up in the lens of protestant Christianity. Of course, I reject the homophobia and sexism that these types may identify as part of the “culture”, but otherwise the term itself can provide a lot of use.

      One instance that comes to mind is the love of martyrdom in the West. It is identified with liberalism but that as well is identified with whatever bourgeois changes were grafted onto Christianity.

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        Yeah, I think it can be useful to understand that the cultural milieu that Westerners exist in is based on Christianity even when those Westerners aren’t Christians- and that their worldviews reflect that. I thought that the word for that was cultural Christianity and that the nu-atheist use of it to signify alignment with reactionary Christians was new?

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      What is a cultural christian anymore?

      In the past they pretended they supported western style secular diverse societies where lgbt people could live and everyone could do their thing. It was used as a pinkwashing bludgeon against the rest of the world to justify imperialist actions.

      Now what is it? They have no moral superiority to hide behind. Their “cultural christianity” is walking back all social progress.

      These people are dying out as a group.

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        Isnt “culturally Christian” just celebrating Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter because it’s the cultural traditions they grew up with, while not being religious?

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        These people are dying out as a group.

        I can confirm. ALL the people I know who did this nu-athiest shit either: 1. woke up and stopped being lame, or 2. Became christo-fascists who now embrace all aspects of the culture “war” as their sole identity and purpose.

        Total cringe shit.

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      Tongue-in-cheek, I like to say that “A cultural Christian is an atheist who says ‘God damn it.’” It’s different from how most Redditors use the term, but I think it fits.

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      I’ve seen this used as a critique, where all the western chauvinist colonial brainworms that are present in Christianity are still present in atheism even though the theological justification isn’t there (and many of those atheists considering themselves morally superior to the Christians that they repudiate).

      I think in my lifetime I saw Dawkins say he was culturally Christian just after the invasion of Iraq, and it seems much more a declaration of his “side” and a rejection of Islam, but I think it became more common to say about yourself around the same time gamergate atheists became tradcaths.

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          I though JBP avoided that conversation a lot because he had half his audience as reactionary atheist gamers and the other half reactionary Christian gamers and didn’t feel like losing a substantial portion of his audience by endorsing either (that said, he’s said a lot so maybe both things are true)

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        it seems much more a declaration of his “side” and a rejection of Islam, but I think it became more common to say about yourself around the same time gamergate atheists became tradcaths

        same-picture

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      A bunch of chuds have converted to Islam so they can claim multiple wives who are all loyal to their one husband. They never find a first wife, let alone a second, nor do they realize what rights women have in Islam and they’re going off racist memes, but hey it owns the libs or whatever.

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        nor do they realize what rights women have in Islam and they’re going off racist memes

        Same energy as “PatSocs” who identify as communists because they think communism is when you throw all the “d-generates” into a gulag (but not the actual historical gulags, the propaganda kind that are equivalent to the Nazi death camps (they’re just Nazis with some labels swapped out)).

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        They never find a first wife

        Many such cases, clearly a skill issue

        (I was also reminded recently of a guy who was in a relationship, decided to open it, and then get really sad that their partner got laid a lot and they didn’t. Also many such cases. Mostly unrelated, but I imagine its almost the same guy)

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    “Atheism” … reminds one of children, assuring everyone who is ready to listen to them that they are not afraid of the bogy man.-Karl Marx

    Ask these so-called destroyers of superstition a few pointed questions about capitalism and white supremacy, and you’ll see how religious these clowns can get