The Lemmy Club
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net to chat@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 months ago

If chess was invented today you'd have a subreddit full of losers whining about how en passant is unbalanced and the king should have the queen's moveset.

message-square
message-square
129
link
fedilink
142
message-square

If chess was invented today you'd have a subreddit full of losers whining about how en passant is unbalanced and the king should have the queen's moveset.

REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net to chat@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 months ago
message-square
129
link
fedilink
  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    3 months ago

    if chess were invented today noone would play it because it’s from India

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      …I thought it was from Medieval Britain, and probably thought that cause I see it frequently in Medieval era movies/shows and novels. I never would have guessed somewhere outside Europe.

      • SootySootySoot [any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        ·
        3 months ago

        “Shah Mat” is from Persian. As in your leader, the “Shah”, is helpless, or stumped, “Mat”. This phrase is what slowly evolved into ‘Checkmate’.

        • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          3 months ago

          Heeeeey, interesting note (and probably related?), ‘mat’ (or ‘maat’) is Arabic for died!

          • Prof_mu3allim [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            3 months ago

            In Arabic we say كِش مات kish maat to mean checkmate. Here is the etymology of checkmate:

            mid-14c., in chess, said of a king when it is in check and cannot escape it, from Old French eschec mat (Modern French échec et mat), which (with Spanish jaque y mate, Italian scacco-matto) is from Arabic shah mat “the king died” (see check (n.1)), which according to Barnhart is a misinterpretation of Persian mat “be astonished” as mata “to die,” mat “he is dead.” Hence Persian shah mat, if it is the ultimate source of the word, would be literally “the king is left helpless, the king is stumped.”

            In Arabic a check is كِش مَلِك:

            كِش kish means to recoil

            and مَلِك malik means king

            So when it’s a checkmate you say مات maat ‘died’ because it’s over now ت

        • Packet [none/use name]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          3 months ago

          “Shah mat” is also how you declare the end of the game in Russian, “шах и мат” they say

        • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          3 months ago

          Indoeuropean languages are fucking cool. Shah Mat in Persian, checkmate in English, Jaque Mate in Spanish. Jaque Mate is eerily close to Jeque Muerto (dead shah).

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        It was in the opening cutscene from Age of Empires II, that’s how you know it’s medieval European in origin.

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        pretty much everything is from outside europe

    • propter_hog [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 months ago

      “eww brownies”

chat@hexbear.net

chat@hexbear.net

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]

Chat is a text only community for casual conversation, please keep shitposting to the absolute minimum. This is intended to be a separate space from c/chapotraphouse or the daily megathread. Chat does this by being a long-form community where topics will remain from day to day unlike the megathread, and it is distinct from c/chapotraphouse in that we ask you to engage in this community in a genuine way. Please keep shitposting, bits, and irony to a minimum.

As with all communities posts need to abide by the code of conduct, additionally moderators will remove any posts or comments deemed to be inappropriate.

Thank you and happy chatting!

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 155 users / day
  • 712 users / week
  • 1.52K users / month
  • 2.98K users / 6 months
  • 3 local subscribers
  • 8.39K subscribers
  • 2.61K Posts
  • 48.1K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
  • ZoomeristLeninist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.net
  • Sulv [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.net
  • BE: 0.19.11
  • Modlog
  • Legal
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org