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REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net to chat@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 months ago

If chess was invented today you'd have a subreddit full of losers whining about how en passant is unbalanced and the king should have the queen's moveset.

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If chess was invented today you'd have a subreddit full of losers whining about how en passant is unbalanced and the king should have the queen's moveset.

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  • Pili [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    En passant? What about castling bro? In one turn you get to:

    • Move your king two squares
    • Let it pass through your rook
    • Develop your rook toward the central files

    Nobody is gonna believe that’s a legal move.

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      Castling is masculine so they’re gonna want more of it.

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        Castling: English word, cool and normal

        En Passant: Fr*nch word, silly and weird

        simple as

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          More like en pussynt because I got that dawg in me

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          Castle comes from French too.

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              They might call it a c(a)ester, which I think is a parallel etymology with castle both from the Latin castrum.

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            Castles come from the French in general. Stone castles were a post Norman thing. Big wooden halls, Rohan style were the pre-Norman Norm

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              they’re also prenorman, the roman ones. some of which were still used into the norman era: i.e. the walls of York

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                That’s true but they’re not quite the same as a full ass Chateau. Tbh, my pre-norman England knowledge is mostly downstream from my Tolkien nerdery it is something I should look more into. German history as well. I’m eventually gonna know all of history really really well one obsession at a time.

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            It gets a pass, cuz we anglicized it well enough

            Here are some other French words that are anglicized well enough to be an English word of its own

            Eg. war, guard, sturdy

            If it was a cringe word like “rendez-vous” (showing all yourselves), castling would be ewww

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              Most war terms in English came from French on account of being conquered by the French via war

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        The most sigma move frfr

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      I’m pretty sure a lot of GMs want it removed because it slows games way down

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    if chess were invented today noone would play it because it’s from India

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      …I thought it was from Medieval Britain, and probably thought that cause I see it frequently in Medieval era movies/shows and novels. I never would have guessed somewhere outside Europe.

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        “Shah Mat” is from Persian. As in your leader, the “Shah”, is helpless, or stumped, “Mat”. This phrase is what slowly evolved into ‘Checkmate’.

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          Heeeeey, interesting note (and probably related?), ‘mat’ (or ‘maat’) is Arabic for died!

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            In Arabic we say كِش مات kish maat to mean checkmate. Here is the etymology of checkmate:

            mid-14c., in chess, said of a king when it is in check and cannot escape it, from Old French eschec mat (Modern French échec et mat), which (with Spanish jaque y mate, Italian scacco-matto) is from Arabic shah mat “the king died” (see check (n.1)), which according to Barnhart is a misinterpretation of Persian mat “be astonished” as mata “to die,” mat “he is dead.” Hence Persian shah mat, if it is the ultimate source of the word, would be literally “the king is left helpless, the king is stumped.”

            In Arabic a check is كِش مَلِك:

            كِش kish means to recoil

            and مَلِك malik means king

            So when it’s a checkmate you say مات maat ‘died’ because it’s over now ت

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          “Shah mat” is also how you declare the end of the game in Russian, “шах и мат” they say

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          Indoeuropean languages are fucking cool. Shah Mat in Persian, checkmate in English, Jaque Mate in Spanish. Jaque Mate is eerily close to Jeque Muerto (dead shah).

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        It was in the opening cutscene from Age of Empires II, that’s how you know it’s medieval European in origin.

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        pretty much everything is from outside europe

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      “eww brownies”

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    One lib rails against the divisiveness of hypermodern play, pleads for a return to the moderate centre ground. Another suggests turning the board sideways so everyone gets to attack the left.

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      Another suggests turning the board sideways so everyone gets to attack the left.

      r/cth flashbacks

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      Have you been hanging out at /r/anarchychess?

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      Turning the board sideways to attack the left dont-laugh

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    Why are half the characters black in that DEI hell hole??! So tired of that woke bullshit.

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    • Sulvor [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.netBanned
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      jesse-wtf

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        You mean you wouldn’t play chess with a skill tree or fog of war? doggirl-smug

        Seriously I’d call it a dog-brained take, but that’s an insult to dogs.

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          chess with a skill tree or fog of war

          TvT Starcraft be like

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          Chess with fog of war is just stratego

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            There already is chess with fog of war. It’s a fun variant, just not the most popular one.

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            I love the bombs 💣 😍

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      I just noticed he was comparing chess to reality and not video games. Dude thinks tech trees exist irl. Lasers from space that never existed before are admitted in that very statement to not be part of reality.

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        He’s been out of touch with reality since at least the end of Apartheid.

        But I hadn’t noticed him mixing real life with videogames. Lmao what a dweeb.

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      Don’t forget the terrible takes that would come from the bazingaist of bazinga brains. Without the thousands of years of history of chess, these takes would be more popular.

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      Reality doesn’t have a tech tree 🫨

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        It could with a chip in your brain.

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      And that’s why I play konkr.io a real game for real genius boys.

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        I played that for longer than I wanted to

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    En passant was literally added as a balance patch.

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      I know, and they’ll cry about that too. Like vanilla wow.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      give me the lore knifecat

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        Originally, pawns could only move one square. However, to speed up the openings, they started playing so that the first move pawns made could be 2 squares.

        That created a dilemma, though; now, if an opponent pawn was in position to capture yours if it moved forward one square from its start, you could evade capture by moving two squares instead. So they created the en passant rule, which allowed the capture of a pawn moving two squares as if it had moved just one square instead.

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      Hope they release Chess Classic.

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    The chess subreddit is sort of like that still though. Just last month, Magnus Carlsen was disqualified from the World Chess Championship for wearing blue jeans. Then soon after FIDE changed the dress code so that Magnus could keep playing, maybe from the pressure of sponsors. Magnus Carlsen went on play in a final match against Ian Nepomniachtchi. After 3 drawn games, both players agreed to share the World Chess Champion title. It is the first time in history that a world chess championship title has been shared. There was a lot of criticism of the decision.

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      Just a small note: it was the world Blitz championship, which is a variant of chess that’s played really quickly. The current world champion is from India, Gukesh Dommaraju. I don’t want to be nitpicky, but I wanted to recognize Gukesh’s achievements.

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        Youngest ever too, right?

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          Yeah! He’s 18 I think.

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      Magnus Carlsen was disqualified from the World Chess Championship for wearing blue jeans

      extremely serious crime

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        MtG had a format that punished you for wearing blue jeans. Certain creatures had “denim walking” which made them unblockable if you were wearing denim

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    They insist that the point of the game is to capture the now-defenceless queen, at which point the winner screams “Cuck! And mate!”

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      Also the queen needs to have big tits

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Do NOT google “rule 34 chess queen big tits” peter-running

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          awooga

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        Insert that one meme about chess being a NTR harem simulator here

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        And is renamed “M’lady”.

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      It would be funny if there was a mechanic by which the queen could attract/carry one of its own minor pieces or pawns. Call it “simp”

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        Already in the game! When a pawn reaches the end of the board (donated all its money to an e-girl) you can exchange it for a queen.

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          That’s actually woke because the pawn transitioned into a queen.

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    I’m pretty sure there was backlash about the queen during its early years

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      To be fair whoever added the queen was clearly trying to min max without understanding the other side gets a queen too; she is like super OP.

      Interestingly I actually read somewhere that when chess was first invented there was no queen on the board, and then just like the addition of Chun Lee to Street fighter led to a developer quitting because he insisted she had to have less health than everyone else, the queen became a staple of the franchise.

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    If chess was invented today you’d have a subreddit full of losers who’s sense of humor maxes out with 2. Ke2

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      It was invented hundreds of years ago and yet that subreddit exists

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        Holy hell

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    I would imagine everyone had it because the no E-Sports scene.

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    I (36F) always wear bright red lipstick whenever I decide I’m not going to let my husband (52M) win. AITA?

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      Is this intended to be a complete nonsequitur cause I do not understand…

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        In the history of “girls can’t play chess”, there was a time when Anna Rudolf was accused of cheating with lip balm somehow.

        So this was meant as an example of someone trolling the chess-loser subreddit. The fictional, suspiciously age-gappy husband can’t comprehend that he isn’t winning for himself, and the super-obvious lipstick is to bait him into ridiculous accusations of cheating. Would such behaviour be assholish? The subreddit decides.

        And since I’m explaining the joke anyway, there’s also an underlying criticism of the way women have to manage the egos of men—particularly the kind inhabiting OP’s fictional subreddit—by letting them win, etc. So, no, absolutely not a non sequitur.

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    Wasn’t en passant invented to “balance” chess?

    Something about the first pawn move being too powerful in the end game because it meant any pawn in a starting position could just skip being threatened by an opposing pawn if it moves two squares.

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    half the pieces are black? DEI strikes again 🙄

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