• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    Do they come with the required manpower though?

    Crew of 4 for the tank. Crew of… thousands? To move and use 541 trebuchets?

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    M1 Abrams: Requires an advanced economy plus an army of General Dynamics contractors for maintenance

    Trebuchet: Can be completely repaired by one hammer-wielding villager

    Plus, I assume that tanks count as a cavalry archer unit, which means any old monk can start converting them. Meanwhile trebuchets can’t be converted until your enemy researches redemption at the monastery.

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      in AOEIII artillery are siege weapons so I think tanks would count as that, I remember getting my onagers converted in AOE but I don’t remember if that’s a thing in AOEII

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        That’s correct. Bombard cannons require the monk to straight up whisper in the crouching dude’s ear for conversion.

        In my headcanon, it’s probably because bombard operators are deaf with all that blasting.

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      I’m not going to drive a trebuchet to my kids’ school to pick them up.

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        Of course not, that would be silly. You can just launch your kid into the school with a trebuchet and avoid rush hour traffic!

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        Obviously you are meant to place trebuchets along the route and be shot from one to the next. With exact timing you could even use another trebuchet to slow you down each time.

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      Wouldn’t the Abrams run out of fuel (not to mention ammo) before it could take out all those trebuchets?

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          If you’re close enough to drive through them, you might as well just swing by the camp of personnel operating them and supplying ammo.

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        I think it would be most effective to drive over the trebuchets with the tank. Simply roll over a wheel or support, and the launcher will be misaligned and unable to fire. Tanks are mobile, and trebuchets are not.

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    bad math, trebuchet is 200 gold AND 200 wood, unless you’re in a civ with gold or wood discount

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    In the older civ games, unit stacking was a thing. The maintenance would be costly and you might break the game with some kind of unit cap, but I think the trebuchets would eventually win.

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      I play freeciv which is civ 3.5. Unit stacking is a thing and a stack of whatever can defeat whatever

      Incidentally I like to give competing civilizations railway technology so when I attack them I can easily overrun all their big cities in a single turn

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    Just open chat and type “how do you turn this on” and get the best of both worlds for free*!

    Tap for spoiler
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    • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Why is that? A tank doesn’t have enough ammunition to take out that many trebuchets, but a stone launched from one of those trebuchets could destroy or seriously damage a tank to the point it would be combat ineffective.

      It doesn’t matter how thick the armor on any given tank is, you drop a 1000lbs rock on it and it’s toast. And that’s not even taking into account the fact that some trebuchets were big enough to launch 2000lbs rocks, according to the encyclopedia Britannica.

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        An abrams can travel at 25mph offroad. It’ll be impossible to aim to hit it. The only way is to launch all your trebuchets and hope one hits it. If you miss, you’re gonna have 60tons with multiple machine guns running you over in a few seconds.

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        yes but what if you have 100 tanks? Mobilizing 54.100 Trebuchets will be a funny thing to watch lmao

        Also the cap is 500.