• jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
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    21 小时前

    Idk I feel like liberals are responsible for enabling people like trump by always trying to maintain the status quo of capitalist growth and the illusion that access to marketplaces = rights. In the case of women, of lgbtq folks, of brown people, etc. I feel like they are half the whole problem. They are also in service to capital, and perpetuate the myth that you can serve your community with integrity while also taking in loads of cash from large organization as a politician

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      I’d say liberals are less responsible for Trump than the people who voted for him or decided to not vote.

      I do know women, LGBTQ folks and people of visible minorities were getting better treatment until Trump and the GOP stepped it back twice rather severely.

      While I’m not against McCarthyism-Lennonism I don’t see it working on a large scale.

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        Those are fair viewpoints. I’m no marxist-leninist. But I will say, capitalism doesn’t work on large scale either. So why keep it around?

        Edit: in other words I think what you say is accurate but doesn’t address the problems I brought up about liberals

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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          Because capitalism does work well for many countries but you have to keep the population educated much like you have to vaccinate against diseases.

          America stopped doing both effectively a while back and now we’re seeing the consequences.

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            Agreed but captialism must be strickly counter-balanced with things that empower people, like strong unions, higher taxes on wealth, and so forth.

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            If every couple of decades you get a right wing faux populist uprising somewhere, then it’s not an abberation of the system. It’s how the system cycles around.

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              That’s why I used the vaccine analogy because education is supposed to train the population to deal with issue like that before they get elected president.

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                And yet, here we are. And not just in America. In much of Europe, they’re celebrating being able to keep their right wing faux populist parties at bay. Just the fact that it got to the need to do that means something went wrong.

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            capitalism does work well for many countries

            At the expense of others, and usually only for a while.