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gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Far-Right Groups Buzz With Violent Talk on How to Respond to ‘No Kings’ Protest

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  • darvocet@infosec.pub
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    They are scared of us. We need to just keep building momentum.

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    “Commit terrorism!” LOL memes are great these days! /s

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      The meaning of terrorism is someone who uses terror to get their political agenda across, no?

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    Just notice that when these Trumper nazis with guns were actually confronted by those who fought back, they ran.

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      Are we though? Don’t drop any details if you’re aware of actual community defense preparations at the No Kings protests…but the organizers of these protests are libbed up as hell. No way they’re working with any armed community defense groups. It looks like the Salt Lake City protest organizers actually did work with a volunteer peacekeeping group, and the fatality was a bystander killed by a bullet meant to stop the gunman.

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        Peace keepers at slc got the dude with the rifle.

        They were put there by protest organizers, so yes they are

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          They also got an innocent bystander killed, so not great there.

          • [deleted] in lemmy@lemmy.world
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            “They weren’t perfect, they should have just let him kill people.”

            They also shot only three times as opposed to police who regularly empty magazines. It is tragic, but it was going to be far worse.

            • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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              You have to think within the context of the conversation being had lmao. The question was “are we really ready?” and our cited security team had an accidental killing.

              Like yeah, I’m glad they stopped the shooter. That wasn’t the point.

          • thedruid@lemmy.world
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            No. It wasn’t. the alternative was worse

            • Hawke@lemmy.world
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              I would agree that it certainly wasn’t the worst case scenario.

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            Yep the violent Nazi started a gun fight that as expected got an innocent killed. While I can’t imagine what their family is going through, thank God that was all that happened. That bystander was a casualty of their war. The peaceful protestors didn’t declare that war.

          • ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Got details? What happened?

            • Hawke@lemmy.world
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              https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/16/us/salt-lake-city-no-kings-protest-shooting

              • EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world
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                Wait so they’re looking for someone who hit a demonstrator with an SUV while in other areas cops are hitting people with their SUV or trampling them with horses?

                Nice that somewhere there’s decency but where’s the standard for this job?

                • Hawke@lemmy.world
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                  Local and inconsistent.

                  Turns out the US is a collection of states.

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            • Hawke@lemmy.world
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              Partly, yeah.

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        Fire fights is what the Right wants and is hoping for.

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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          It doesn’t necessarily need to be a firefight.

          https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/organizing-armed-defense-in-america#toc24

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            Well that link is dead…

            • Revan343@lemmy.ca
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              Works fine for me

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                Hmmm seems like my phone is blocking the whole website, that’s concerning…

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                  That’s fucking cursed. Try here: https://annas-archive.org/md5/adf8feb06a3e21357764640971b33f82

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          • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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            Fred Hampton.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton

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        They were working with the armed defense group that stopped a mass shooting in Utah and the 50501 spokesperson said the designated armed defense groups were a regular part of the protests.

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        I can’t speak for every group, but from reading about the incident at the Salt Lake City protest it was an armed guard that shot the would-be shooter and unfortunately killed the bystander

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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          RIP to Mr. Ah Loo. This shouldn’t have fucking happened, and hopefully there will be accountability for this. Beyond that, I’m going to hold off on commenting until more details come out.

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      Loose lips sink ships.

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    My title would be proud boys get stiffys while posting violence fetish fantasies online from their parents basements.

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    Can anyone think of a case where opening fire on unarmed citizens actually caused unrest to die down? Because I can’t think of a single case. Even in Russia, the Russian Revolution of 1905 was sparked off by firing on civilians.

    In every case I can think of it made things worse for whoever was in charge. Aren’t there any counterexamples?

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      Tiananmen square.

    • ZephyrXero@lemmy.world
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      They want it to escalate

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        They think they do.

        • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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          FAFO I guess

    • Gloomy@mander.xyz
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      Weren’t there a couple of unrests in proxy states it the Soviet Union that were ended with violence?

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        uprisings in Czechoslovakia, Hungary etc? Yes very much.

      • Glitterbomb@lemmy.world
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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Kazakh_unrest

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    This article is from Friday. It doesn’t make it entirely irrelevant, but keep it in mind and take the fear element of it with a grain of salt. Proud Boys are all talk.

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      I mean to be honest, they’re not Proud Men.

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        That’s a good one, gonna use that.

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      Over the weekend at least one car drove through a No Kings protest (in NC I think), at least one person was killed in a shooting at a protest (in UT), two Democratic politicians were shot in MN (one killed). This is more than just talk.

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        To be fair, the person shot & killed at the march was an accident trying to stop a shooter, and the kid who drove the car hurt at most one person who didn’t need emergency services. The one with a real agenda was the killer dressed as a cop who had delusions of killing 50+ without realizing he’d be hunted down and caught after the first.

        Yes, they’re getting violent, and yes, they have plans, but don’t give them any more credit than they deserve and scare people. Don’t over- or underestimate your enemy.

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    History shows that the public will side against the group they perceive to be the most violent. So let’s let them get that fame before we start firing back

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      Not disagreeing necessarily, but it feels really bad to voluntarily sacrifice human lives so that we can build good will with the public.

      It’s a matter of perspective and who would die if such and such happened vs this other thing.

      As the old saying goes, the ends justify the means, right?

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        In chess the pawns get sacrificed. That’s how all armed conflict goes, man.

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          nuh uh if you open the position without proper development you’re just gonna mess up your pawn structure and leave yourself vulnerable to rook attacks on the open files

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            It’s just a saying, not actual strategy my guy.

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    They’re going to wear “Yes Kings” t-shirts.

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    Probably “bring guns and be assholes”.

    Pretty much the only response they’re capable of.

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    This sounds like trump’s talking points. He’s feeding his crime family their thoughts.

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      With Theil pulling the orange rapist/felons strings.

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