(barring instances with hidden blocklists)
Apart from setting up and running your own instance to defederate*, there is no way of making your feed filter out the subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse, whether or not it is welcome there. If somebody could set up an instance with this community’s values and filters in mind, I imagine that would be helpful to many of us. This instance could be adapted to defederate from other AI-spreading instances as well.
Fediseer, the default web tool for instances to document issues and endorsements of other instances, which incidentally is maintained by the admin of db0, shows that lemmy.dbzer0.com has received no censures whatsoever from other instances.
*or instead manually blocking every user from dbzer0, which would be futile as they continue to gain users
[EDIT: Since many people seem confused, here is how blocking an instance works:
Given that instances X, Y, and Z are all federated with each other:
If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post/comment onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts/comments.
Only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.]
Fuck off with purity tests for other instances. That’s how the community eats itself alive.
If you don’t like their comms, don’t subscribe them.
Signed, an occasional db0 user who hates AI.
I don’t even understand the OPs argument. We are generally respectful towards other people and communities, lack of defederation is the best proof. Why would OP want to defederate with db0 even if as OP said, doesn’t even know if AI content is something of concern or not?
EDIT: even better, OP is not a registered user of .world…
Keyword: “subset”
I don’t want AI content on my feed. Pro-AI instance users continue to output AI-content non-locally. Blocking the pro-AI instance does not filter this content from my feed. Ergo, another means is necessary to filter the content of the users of this instance from my feed.
Why would OP want to defederate with db0 even if as OP said, doesn’t even know if AI content is something of concern or not?
I don’t understand what you’re saying but the best sense I can make of it is that you’re saying I said something that I didn’t say.
even better, OP is not a registered user of .world…
What does that have to do with anything? First of all, Fediverse. Second of all, my host instance is to reduce loads on larger instances (such as .world and db0) by hosting users instead of communities
Please show examples of the pro-AI users of db0 trying to spread it to other communities.
That would pretty strongly go against the general “vibe” of the db0 instance, and I’d expect the db0 admin team wouldn’t stand behind their users breaking rules of other comms (assuming the other comms have rules against it).
If the other comms don’t have rules against it, then you block the user in question. If you feel this strongly about it, make your own comms and instance.
If you check my posting history you’ll see I’m active both in this comm and techtakes on awful.systems, both very strongly anti-AI.
I blocked the AI related comms on db0, which took maybe 10 minutes. Beyond that, I would block any users doing what you’ve described if I encountered them, but I sincerely can’t remember encountering more than maybe two users in my two years here who would fit that criteria.
This entire post reeks of bad-faith and purity testing.
Most of the Ai stuff is limited to dbzer0 comms.
It’s not their communities. It’s the AI content that a subset of pro-AI users bring onto other instance’s communities. Is this not clear in the post?
So you want to ban all users from that instance because you have a philosophical beef with some of those users?
It could be an instance such as the one I am hosted on, which hosts users but not communities, as the benefit is purely for browsing.
Do you have an effective alternative to avoiding AI content coming from instances specifically made to output AI content? If one more person says “just block the instance” I might scream.
I’d have thought the users here at c/Fuck_AI would be more anti-AI.
instances specifically made to output AI content
You’re going to have to show evidence of this.
They also have communities about AI. That’s very different from “an instance specifically made to output AI content”. Block those communities and move on.
Is everybody on the Fediverse incapable of reading? I’ve already explained multiple times in this thread why blocking doesn’t work and/or isn’t relevant
subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse,
What does that even mean? I’ve seen to evidence of pushy AI evangelicals on any instance.
If you don’t like posts from an instance, block it for yourself. You don’t need an instance to defederate.
If you don’t like posts from an instance, block it for yourself. You don’t need an instance to defederate.
It seems as though you misunderstand how blocking instances and defederation work. If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts. This is what I referred to when I said “subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse”. Defederating does require an instance, and only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.
evangelicals
I was not meaning proselytizers, per se. More so spamming of AI content onto communities that are not local to dbzer0.
Seems like the best thing for you is to create your own instance
I posted to this community expecting that other users here were similarly frustrated with the situation and I suggested a new instance as a solution in hopes that someone with the knowhow could make it. Sadly, I am very dumb with computers so I can’t even wrap my head around the basics of starting an instance.
I might be, if I had seen any evidence of what you’re describing occurring.
I’d imagine that is also the reaction of most people downvoting you. You keep insisting this is happening, but I haven’t seen it. Provide some screenshots, anything to elevate this past “impassioned rant” and into the realm of having hard examples to talk about.
Do there exist easy tools for obtaining data like that from Lemmy? Ex. filter by instance in modlog, filter by instance of poster in All
Go into your settings, you can block whatever user, community, or instance you feel like blocking. You should have the option so you don’t need to block individual users.
Defederating the entire instance seems excessive for this use case.
Copied from other comments of mine:
It seems as though you misunderstand how blocking instances and defederation work. If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts. This is what I referred to when I said “subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse”. Defederating does require an instance, and only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.
I don’t want AI content on my feed. Pro-AI instance users continue to output AI-content non-locally. Blocking the pro-AI instance does not filter this content from my feed. Ergo, another means is necessary to filter the content of the users of this instance from my feed.
