I know it won’t be popular to say this here but I think AI music is going to eventually reach a point where it is capable of doing something interesting.
What it needs in order to do that however is to merge biological data with what it does. If you start feeding in heart rate, sweat and other data into machine learning on top of generation it will eventually find some genuinely interesting ways to use sound and music to manipulate biological response.
That might not even sound like music as we know it though so it will be interesting in and of itself.
Ultimately generative AI without that data is going to be at a permanent disadvantage to human creators who are using their knowledge of biological response to music when composing. It’s a logical step I think we’ll see.
Sorry after reading all of this, all I can think of is ai coming up with its own brown note
adaptive procedural music isn’t strictly something you need generative ai to create. that could literally be an apple watch app or some shit with normal programming practices.
as far as the generative stuff goes, i’m the most interested in the unintended results and failure modes, things people would never deliberately make. that would be better than algorithmic pop garbage
Something like this https://generative.fm/ or maybe something coded with supercollider, sonicpi, faust or something.
exactly. i wouldn’t even be surprised if the biometrics-informed version has been done and most of us never heard of it because we wouldn’t think to look for it
Yeah I’m talking about the AI creating something that does not exist or at least using what exists in a way that absolutely optimises emotional effect in a way that a human being can’t without the realtime metrics. AI could theoretically not just make songs but make songs in realtime based on the response it is getting from the listener. This is inherently not something a human musician is capable of doing.
At that point I think I’m talking about music having potential to be similar to drug effects though. Music already does affect me like a drug, changing my mood and emotions entirely, optimising that in realtime could go interesting places.
The interesting part of this is not AI making stuff that already exists though. It’s the potential for doing something that does not currently exist. AI becomes genuinely interesting to me when it’s pushing that frontier rather than rewriting what’s already been done.
It’s a tool, and like any tool, it needs the person using it to understand and appreciate the medium they’re trying to work in, in order to create something genuinely unique. I don’t think it will be capable of creating anything beyond the most generic, because the only people interested in using it are people who only want to make a quick buck and not actually express ideas creatively.
You’re not wrong
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Why would you post a YouTube video here with only 130 views? There are probably AI-generated music videos with millions of views, so whatever this says is likely at odds with reality.
I wasn’t aware that the validity of arguments made by someone hinges on how popular they are. I guess I’ll have to wait until this gets a million views before I’ll consider the arguments made in the video.
Thanks for reminding me that we live in a society where striving for popularity still pays off. Please help me out by upvoting this comment.
It’s how we know Mr Beast is the wisest man in history, a modern day Plato or Aristotle, because his youtube channels gets the most views.
I remember despising PewDiePie when he was the most viewed content content creator and was throwing slurs all over the place like an episode of Oprah giving away free cars to the audience. Now I realize his popularity made him a genius doing a gaming inspired interpretation of Mein Kampf for the modern age.
excuse me, SIR, but mcdonalds sold 10 million big macs today, and that means it is the greatest, most nutritious, and enjoyable food on EARTH.
Thanks for reminding me that we live in a society
Never forget it
Why would you post a comment here with only 24 upbears? There are probably AI-generated comments with millions of upbears, so whatever this comment is saying is likely at odds with reality.
Comparing views is not the argument you think it is when everyone knows that the people who write the algorithm that gives content views are the same people that own the AI slop factory.
lol, lmao
So if something is popular it is automatically good? You could try and judge the video based on the arguments being made instead of just looking at view counts. Most AI music channels are designed to manipulate youtube’s algorithm to artificially inflate their view count, and that’s when they aren’t just using bots to do it.
What’s even the point of sharing popular videos? They’re already popular.
