The public is being shown just enough to know the truth, and to understand that nothing is going to happen.
Genuine question, when will we get together and just remove them? Like get 1000 people together and storm their houses and drag them out. A couple people will be shot probably, but we have plenty of guns and gasoline. Why are we not doing that? There is verifiable proof that these people are actively working towards YOUR extermination and have been kidnapping and trafficking our children to be abused and beaten and eaten and raped for years.
There isnt any sane argument for us to not do what I said above. There is no way to justify allowing them to live in our society for even another week. We need to round every single person mentioned in the files up and bury them.
One argument is the high likelihood of any effort at organizing anything like that to be a trap. If it succeeded to any extent, it would probably be because the rest of the power structure decided they want one guy in particular dead (they did kill Epstein himself), and also that they want a pretense to escalate towards more militarization. I think actually winning would need removing their power first.
The couple people who get shot are quite likely to be the organizers “committing suicide” as soon as they experience enough success to seem dangerous. The status quo is irreparable. The positions these monsters occupied must themselves be destroyed. That will not be accomplished by a flash of mob violence. Going after inital targets presented by the government’s controlled release makes you a useful idiot, the stick side of “Epstein’s” Israeli-backed influence operation that is now being run by the DoJ.
Majority of people will get more upset at the ones that do that then anything the terrible people in charge do/those in the files.
With all that’s going on, this is having some profound effects on my mental health. I rarely suffer from imposter syndrome now because I can compare my competency with them. If that shit show can be in charge of a country then my worries of discovery are nonexistent.
I thought myself a generally bad person from just not volunteering or anything, I mostly provide monetary assistance to friends who have a hard period. Now, I’m a veritable saint in comparison.
Your average person would think I reprehensible for wanting to just dispose and depose all the wealthy as well as powerful. Now, I can point that one person has literally been a puppeteer all along in all the horrible things that have happened.
It’s because what you see on TV/media is bullshit and it 100% conditions your perception of societal norms.
An easy example is a TV show like friends where young people assume adults just get to hang out and meet their friends all the time.
Reality makes no sense and it doesn’t fit a “bucket”. Terrible people can work in altruistic roles. Idiots can work at what you’d think are smart office jobs.
I think the slow release also serves as a distraction.
The more time news keep focused on Epstein, the less reporting on the more critical and long lasting damage the current USA administration is inflicting on its people and the whole world.
When the Epstein case is resolved (if), best case scenario is a bunch of pedos getting house arrest until their very near death.
When this administration crimes are resolved, we will still suffer its impact for decades.
So, sigh, operant conditioning, for all of those who know it as Skinner conditioning, carry on, for those of you who don’t, also carry on, it’s not the be all and end all, it’s just an old psychological technique
Not sure it’s that simple. A slow release can make the whole thing better known. Just look at Julian Assange and Edward Snowden. Assange dumped everything he had at once. It was in the news for a bit (including that some of the stuff he put in there had the potential for putting people’s lives at risk), then it was out of the headlines. Snowden, on the other hand, worked with journalists to release things bit by bit, focusing on the important documents and spacing out the releases. Result: it stayed in the news a lot, lot longer than the things Assange released, and as a result people on average know a lot better about what he revealed.
So if anything, this is helping more people know about it. Think about it, the files were supposed to all be released last year. It’s still in the news, because of all this.
and with assange it turned enough of the public against him, even out of ignorance, because he did so quickly he was framed. chelesea manning(before she transition from a male) also was largely out of the medias attention because he released sensitive info all at once too.
It’s all designed to be spectacle without consequence so that power can protect itself.
That’s pretty much the main problem with American politics in general. That and the inherent corruption, of course.
Not sure about that. It is a side effect perhaps.
But the empire is crumbling.
Right now the files are still being used as a political weapon by the fascist regime to target people who didn’t pay enough loyalty to the emperor, like Gates, Clinton, Musk, Royal families in Europe.
There is a vast body, possibly much more than the DOJ is admitting (as there is literally no oversight), of documents that is being held back. This is the emperor showing and warning: pay fealty to me, and I can protect you, see what happens when you don’t.
That is the real game that is playing out before our eyes, and they are doing it with the hearts and souls of the victims foremost. So let’s not let up on the pressure and make sure their suffering is not in vain and we get accountability.
However you split this: this is the beginning of the rich eating the rich. This is what is to be expected at this point in the timeline of the fall of an empire.
Not so sure about whether this will normalise it, but it will be a permanent blemish on any rich fucker who’s trying to convince us their company has the best intentions for humanity.
It is exposing an insanely depraved and disgusting power structure that has been going on for far too long. I’ve been exposed to this myself for decades of my life and I’ve never gotten used to it — it’s only motivated me to go after them harder.
The people in the Trump cult (GOP) will never be convinced with any amount of evidence. Their worldview is emotional and primal. They don’t want the rule of law. They want the rule of their master’s boot.
I’ve largely given up trying to convince them of anything. My relatives believe everything about the files unless it’s about Trump. At this point I just send them stuff to vent.
We can have our two minute hate against Epstein & Co., but:
once again it’s not about Trump, though I’m sure he’s in it with no less disgusting communications, pictures, maybe even moving pictures.
We already know that Jeffrey was a horrible human being.
Okay, so… any actionable advice? At least for people in the US? (Ideally some for those of us outside, but anything is better than nothing)
Anti corruption PACs with tight and unvariable definitions of corrupt behaviour especially when it comes to money.
Small donation style like that Bernie Sanders campaign for some PACs, but others should allow billionaire whales. The key is to make the PACs impervious to outside influence on the key mission to only fund politicians demonstrating honesty and integrity.
Do multiple PACs, so theres no one point of failure. When an Honesty and Integrity PAC is corrupted, shut it down or exit it, taking the people with integrity with you. Leave the corrupted behind.
Do this for decades, make donors aware its a long term project and to build their donations into their yearly budgets. This will need communitarian bridge builders, something US people do very well when they’re given the support to. Have yearly AGMs, promote them and make them easy to access, and easy for donors to ask questions of the PAC, a bit like Superannuation industry funds are supposed to do ‘on paper’ in Australia.
Finally there might be enough patriotic Americans in positions of power again that they start looking after the country and not oligarchs, and hey, maybe stop undermining every flower of hope that sprouts in the rest of the world to.
I think the role of money in US society needs to change. And i’d love to see US citizens decide, on their own terms, to demote its importance; rather than the hammer of poverty brought on by increasing wealth inequality forcing the demotion.
That’s a well thought out suggestion, at last at first glance. What step could Americans take today to get to that point?
its to wet the appetite, they are avoiding or diluting the fact that trump and other billionaires/ world leaders have done far worst things that are on tape.
The public is being shown just enough to know the truth
That they know nothing?
Yawn. The BIG, no ok, then small… tactics Trump does it like textbook.
And half of Lemmy is in on it. Humorously, it’s not the ML. It’s the .world users who are ~2.6+ years old at this moment. Lots of alts in that range. Old accounts with only a few hundred comments? Suspicious.
Besides, how can a not-cop survive 2 years without being banned by Adolf Lund?
Suuuusss
What is your actual accusation here? I’m not really following all the .ml and .world infighting.
