No warning, not even a “Don’t do it again email” - I had a work account, that was logged in on my works laptop, I made a comment critical of Netanyahu, and the Gaza genocide, which got that account banned from /pics. This was months ago, then I made a comment on pics, on my main account. That’s it, gone, banned.

I even have another spare account, from 2008, logged in to that, that’s banned too. FFS!

No luck on appeals, so I guess no more reddit, ever again. Anyone managed to get around this?

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    Yea, I lost my 15 year old account last year. Started a new one and it just wasn’t the same. Left a few months ago for here, still not the same, but better then reddit.

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      There is something going on there and I suspect that there is a real effort underway to tie peoples identity to a reddit account. They want a real email or a phone number and if you are denying them this and protective of your data they are getting not a lot from you. They read your private messages and are basically data mining the hell out of everything. Culling long time members seems to be a thing and for specious or no real reason? I would like to think that me blocking all ads and blocking my IP and using an anonymous email annoyed them. I supported Palestine and reminded people about the death of Rachel Corrie so that probably helped. Karma was good 17,000 and 39000 post and comment so I have only two words for Reddit Admins…and they are See Ya!

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        Maybe they only want people who don’t make waves, stick to pun chains, innocuous comments, etc. Things like news subs though are full of angry rants so I’m not sure.

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          I never saw the point. I was pretty jealous with my data and pretty scrupulous with my vpn and would not use it without my ad blocker or privacy guard engaged. As soon as they wanted access to private messaging and making chat the default it was a signal that they no longer wished to be locked out of any conversation. I just made a new tuta.com account and will be back there aging up and account directly.

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        I regularly purged my comment and post history and before I deleted it I overwrote my comment history with fuck u/spez then deleted and deleted my account.

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          Nice my version of redact is no longer supported. I am going to age up a new account and hopefully figure out how to get un suspended so I can wipe the account clean and leave them with nothing

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          I used REDACT to clean up my comment history, It rewrites them to something like the quick brown fox jumps over…or Ipsum Locsum

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        reddit is pretty much in cahoots with GOOgle have you notice how closely they are entertwined. GOOGLE promotes reddit posts instantly to the top, no secret. plus reddit uses googles AI system i believe too, reddit allows google to scrape the site, also thier anti-botting system, captcha v3 is invisible bot checking system, which apparently triggers the v2, if it doesnt trust you.

        reddit also recently made user history, hide-able, so you cant tell if someone is a bot by looking at a evidence of thier comment history.

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          I laugh at google. I dont use their email and I dont have a recovery phone number and I dont save my my watch history on youtube and I block every ad they try and send. Privacy Badger is pretty helpful.

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      i havnt tried making a new one, give hown they shadown banned, plus i went on another forum immediately they catch on to new accounts very easily, PLUS they also start targeting old inactive accounts that became active suddenly or new accounts. it is possible if your using a new device and a new IP address, plus a browser. apparently they trust google email/mobile made accounts more and iphone ones, over PC generated ones(they can tell through thier fingerprinting methods, what devices and components, where you generated your account.

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    I met Steve, Alexis, and Aaron when the site was housed in Steve’s Somerville apartment. They used to throw meetups in Davis Square. This was in 2007-08, before the Digg migration.

    Reddit is nothing like it was then, nor are the founders recognizable compared to what I saw all those years ago. I’m not banned, but then I rarely go there any more. Lemmy isn’t very good, but Reddit is a dumpster fire.

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    Tenure doesn’t matter; just think about how many people removed all their content in response to their API pricing, and they still didn’t care. Reddit is gone, so is Twitter.

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    Reddit really needs a great alternative. Lets see how Lemmy does in this regard.

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      I already got banned from a group on one of the lemmy feds. Guess I didn’t agree with the echo chamber but since I couldn’t see the offending comment I have no idea. I just abandoned the fed, fuck 'em.

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      If people would start posting more pictures of their pit bulls and just pets in general lemmy could be a fucking eutopia

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        I’d never let my young kids pet a pitbull. She already knows to ask before petting but I’ll never let her pet a pitt. The only reason I carry a knife when walking my dog is in case a pitt bull attacks.

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    Yup, banned after 17 years here for speaking out against ICE. Guess Reddit is just taking a turn right into the shitter now.

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    12 years for me. Tons of Karma, made it to top page once. I made a stupid joke on Roast me, and someone considered it Hate speech. Tried to create other profiles, all are permanently banned now. Appeals are denied. Glad I found this site. I hope it scratches the itch.

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    So glad I got the fuck out of there. I was almost banned for saying they should take out Desantis like the dirty diaper he is.

    This was way back during Trump’s first presidency. I appealed explaining that in the same series of comments way worse was said. The mod accused me of harassment for sending a single appeal. It left such a bad taste in my mouth I never really took the site seriously after that and moved on completely several months later.

    It was a good thing though. Everything I had liked about Reddit had long been perverted, I just hadn’t realized it.

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    It’s actually quite a horrible feeling, initially. I was there from near the beginning, through the glory days to the enshitification. Got banned from a sub by an overzealous mod on AskUK. Then perma-banned for ‘ban-evasion’, simply for using another “throwaway” account, which was common practice for years.

    Now I’m on Lemmy I’m never going back, even if I could (which is harder than you might think).

    Yes, this place is way smaller, but I’ve met almost no dickheads or bots in the year or so I’ve been here. It’s nice. I had a gander at Reddit the other day and it reinforced my affection for this platform and utter disdain for Reddit in general. They’ve absolutely wrecked it.

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      Yeah, you’re right, when you’ve been there for so many iconic moments of it, the cumbox, the gobstopper, the coconut, Mr Oglolblo (I can’t believe I can still spell that) It’s been a huge part of growing up I guess, but yeah, my doomscrolling has improved massively, the quality of content here is better. I just need to make the leap and delete reddit for good.

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    18 years. Banned a year ago. No recourse, appeal immediately denied. Used the word “tRump”

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    Anyone managed to get around this?

    Didn’t even try. It was the impetus I needed to finally leave reddit. I’d also been on there for a long time, and i was putting in an hour or so each day. It wasn’t really doing me any good, and when I adjusted I felt better to be away from it. Lemmy scratches the itch but is small enough that it doesn’t consume much time. I do more reading and gaming now when I’m free. Years spent on reddit and big karma numbers are a sunk cost that makes it hard to leave.

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      I recently got perma banned from a community I’m very passionate about. No warning, perma ban for something that imo is not that controversial (I called a politician a spineless fuck) when I attempted to contest it, the mods muted me. Fuck reddit.

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        You have to be very bland and innocuous now. Even calling a 3rd person an idiot is enough to get your comment deleted so you have to constantly check yourself “Is this comment boring and milktoast enough to survive?”

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      I had an account for over 10 years and also left. I left over the recent issues with Discord as well as Reddit, Meta, and Google. I figured it was time to get off of them, honestly they did OP a favor.

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      I find fewer and fewer reasons to go to it. I mute many of the annoying subs from my feed. I avoid the ones that are just echo chambers. This leaves a pretty small list and they are getting very repetative.

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    they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip. the only way to go back is make a new account on a different device/browser and never log into that new account from your old device

    but do you really want to go back?

    i also had multiple accounts (main acct was 14 yrs old) banned for hurting conservative fee fees. don’t miss it one bit

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      Yes and no, I guess, I don’t know… I used it every day for almost 20 yrs, It became part of my daily routine. I’m really liking it here though, it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’ and more inclusive, kinda like early reddit.

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        it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’

        Very much so.

        Two things killed Reddit for me.

        1. Bot bans for basically everything.

        2. Over-saturated to the point that your comments almost never get interacted with. So…what’s the point?

        • Same here! I used to leave comments in the early days of Reddit, but then it became clear that many posts I was replying to were just karma farming or bots.

          Seeing that made me just stopped using it as anything other than a content aggregator, and only through the 3rd party apps.

          When they basically killed API access I moved here. It doesn’t have the niche communities that are on Reddit, but when I need information from those I just search it up.

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        the fingerprinting is pretty extensive, your browser size, screen resolution, computer components,etc. it would have to be a new device, IP,a nd different browser, and or long term success requires you to use paid methods.

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      they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip.

      I only use Reddit at work on my work desktop. Over the last handful of years I’ve gone through a shit ton of Reddit accounts, but they last weeks/months until I say one of the many, many things you can get bot banned for on Reddit, which I inevitably do, because I am not nice to fascists and I don’t care if I get banned for being mean to fascists.

      So I’m not sure about the IP thing.

      I’m statically assigned an internal IP, so that never changes. And my public IP should also remain the same for weeks/months as far as I know.

      It would be interesting to have a network admin’s thoughts on this. Am I somehow being assigned a new public IP on a daily basis? That’s handled on the ISP’s side. Does my workplace have an agreement with the ISP to change public IP’s every day? Cuz sometimes I only make it a day or two before telling a fascist the only good fascist is a dead one and getting banned.

      I use the Brave browser and only use private windows. When I’m banned I clear the browser, making sure everything, including cookies, are wiped. I re-open the browser in a private window, create a new throwaway email account, use it to create a new Reddit account, and I’m back in until, like you, I hurt conservative fee fees.

      I always thought an IP ban would be bad for their business cuz then one person could get a multi-user computer banned and Reddit would lose users that way. Not that I would put it past Reddit to make bad decisions. I’ve been watching them do it for almost two decades now.

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        Network admin here, your internal IPv4 address doesn’t matter, external people don’t see it. Your work likely has a static block of external IPv4 addresses and it’s possible that they are rotated through over time so your effective external IP changes slowly. This depends on how big your work organization is and how your network admin set things up

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          But could it be rotating external addresses literally every day or two?

          Like I said, I only make it a day or two with some of these accounts before I say something I typically know will get me banned and I just don’t care. Then I’m back in with my new account. It’s fully functional. I check to make sure I’m not shadowbanned. I get activity on my posts. And those accounts can be good for months.

          I just don’t see how Reddit can be IP banning if I’m able to do this.

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              Interesting. It’s an extension of NAT.

              So you would have to purchase a pool of external IP addresses from your ISP?

              So, technically, if you had PAT on your home router, which I’m not even sure is a thing, and purchased external IPs from your ISP, you could cheat Reddit’s IP ban, assuming they actually have an IP ban in place?

              But regular external IPs get cycled every few weeks/months, right? So wouldn’t anyone with a Reddit IP ban be able to get back in with a new account once their external IP naturally cycles?

              I mean if Reddit banned based on more than IP, like my computer’s MAC address, then any new account I created would be insta-banned for having the same MAC. I’ve been using this same computer for a few years now.

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                MACs are not seen by Reddit - that’s layer 2 info that only your ISP sees. All they see is your external IP. Most home users don’t have a static IP or static pool and can likely get a new IP - that’s called a dynamic IP. As to your point about IP ban evasion, they are used to home users having dynamic IPs so they probably don’t depend on IP bans at all - likely client fingerprinting (cookies, user-agent string, other browser identifiers) and usage, like what subreddits you go to

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                  they do banned abused PUBLIC type IP, that people use to evade with. so thats why they have to look for IP THAT IS MORE niche.

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            i suspect they are less likely to ban large public IP used by businesses, institutions like schools,etc. over a individual, they probably put them in special category.

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        Your company may use a NAT network. NAT network can be described as a VPN but in a more local and trusted form. What I mean is that since migration from IPv4 to IPv6 is still going on, many internet providers use 1 public IPv4 address for like hundreds of their users, thus providing both additional security/anonymity and cutting costs on equipment and its maintenance. Thus, your company may share the same public IP address with a thousand other users securing it from being banned so easily. You can check this fact by go on sites that show your IP and then compare it with the IP of a router. If they are different, then most likely you are using the NAT network.

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        i had a same thing going on, although i was using public university computers to do it, which is probably why they dint initially block all of them until last year. different IP, and device was confusing them. if they however detect same positng pattern, or writing style they will catch on quickly,

        on another forum, i heard they “trust” iphone, google email, phone made accounts over a desktop now. it did make sense seeing as how you can have a burner device with loads of account and not get banned for having that many. of course adding some IP/proxies, anti detect in the mix.

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      I really hope you deleted every activity on your 14 year old account because reddit will hold on to your data (even if you delete your account), sell it, and use it to train their AI. Something which they got from you for free while denying you access to their services after you committed time (14 fucking years), paid internet and all that. I wish every single user they permabanned did this. Reddit would collapse in less than one week

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        i used an auto app that went in and edited the comments to be random word gibberish

        it took like a week

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            some mods hate those auto gibberators, so i got notifications from some subs that they deleted those comments and banned me from the sub–on my site-wide banned account lol

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              “some” not all. Use it for the ones that work. For the ones that do not allow, you may manually delete your comments or replace them with random single words so it overwrites whatever backups they have.

              In a war of man vs machine, Man always wins