The UK Green Party is set to vote on whether “Zionism is Racism” at the upcoming Spring Conference.

Motion A105 Zionism is Racism defines Zionism as racism, recognises its “continued harm to Palestinians,” and would position the stance of the Green Party as anti-Zionist.

It recognizes Zionism as Israel’s foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports the establishment of a “single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital.” This effectively would eradicate the State of Israel.

  • Egonallanon@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    1 day ago

    Really glad to see the swing the greens have taken since Polanski became leader. Only significant party that seems to be willing to any stance opposing Israel.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      It’s not even that controversial a stance, it’s just Labour have decided that it is and are acting like it’s an unacceptable belief even though it’s a perfectly reasonable non-radical position to take.

      It’s no different then saying you oppose apartheid or US bullishness or Chinese expansionism. It doesn’t matter that it’s Israel’s official position (the position of a war criminal no less), we are still allowed to make judgements on it and that not be anti-Semitic.

      • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        22 hours ago

        “Chinese expansionism” lmao the nation that hasn’t been in a war for like 45 years. Chauvinistic racist take.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          13 hours ago

          You need to look up the definition of racism my friend. The Chinese Communist party are not a protected class and I can be as critical of them as I want.

          • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            12 hours ago

            When the critique is unfounded lies and slander then we can all work out where that shit is coming from. Ask yourself why you would so readily absorb and adopt this nonsense about China, a country you clearly know nothing about.

      • Tenebris Nox@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Not too many years ago that right-wing politicians did openly support apartheid and labelled Mandela as a terrorist.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          22 hours ago

          But not Labour, the whole point of this dissatisfaction with labour’s current direction is that they are going in a route that is entirely not what their voters want.

      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        It should be common sense that Zionism is racism but everyone is still afraid to say it. One of those “ahead of our time” moments.

        • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          There were Zionists (mainly early socialist Zionists) who believed in coexistence and attempted to uphold the rights of the Palestinians and promote equality. They didn’t succeed. I think that this was what Zach was alluding to with his “Zionism isn’t necessarily inherently racist” comments. But in practice, the logic of colonialism will inevitably lead to racism, ethnic cleansing and often genocide, and the idealists will get pushed aside by the bigots and thugs.

          A historical parallel is the Spanish conquest of Mexico. There were people among the conquistadors, mainly priests, who had benign intentions towards the indigenous peoples. They were rendered completely irrelevant by the vast majority of conquistadors who were gold-hungry gangsters with swords and guns. Those are the forces that colonialism unleashes, and the benign intentions of a few don’t change the overall effect.

          So I’d support a resolution that Zionism, as it exists now, is colonialist and racist.

          • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            1 day ago

            It’s undeniable that there have been Jews which were trying to live together, especially German Jews which were ethnically cleansed by the Holocaust. However most of these groups show up after 1920, more than 20 years after the Zionist conferences decided on colonizing Palestine and having set the plan in motion (which was already deep into Zionism, they conferred on ethnically cleansing other lands too). The Jews opposing ethnically cleansing Palestinians certainly didn’t create Zionism, they were reformists.

            The origins of Zionism, and the vast majority of its followers throughout all of Zionist history, have always wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestinians and colonize their land because Palestinians are not “racially Jewish” according to them.

  • SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 day ago

    It recognizes Zionism as Israel’s foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports

    the establishment of a “single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital.” This effectively would eradicate the State of Israel.

    I am not sure these two are fundamentally the same.

    “Palestine should exist as a state” does not necessarily imply “Israel should not exist as a state”.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 day ago

      It might be JPost exaggerating but would be cool if Greens got on board with the opposing the existence of the racial ethnostate.

    • Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 day ago

      This was exactly my response when someone told me that “from the river to the sea” is hate speech calling for eradicating Israel. Only a zio could view Palestinian liberation that way.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 day ago

        Zionism is as much a victim complex as anything else. Anything that isn’t overly pro Israel (as in they get everything they want no matter how much it may hurt other people), is anti Israel according to them.