Wowzers! You get banned for posting sources not sanctioned by the empire apparently. I thought dbzer0 was supposed to be a leftist instance, but they ban just like the lib and zio instances like .world and ShitJustFash?!

I see lib rags spammed all over the feed…

🙄

  • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    10·
    3 days ago

    So I was DMed by a user asking me to ban this person, and I didn’t just do that. I actually went and checked what they were posting, and it is indeed pro-Russia and alt-right propaganda. I made sure to remove each post individually since ban with removal omits from the modlog, so you can still see what they were banned for.

    This ban is 100% correct and will never be revoked. When their instance ban expires I will make sure to ban them again. As I am confident they will not refrain from posting similar articles when their current ban expires.

    • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
      23·
      2 days ago

      Can you elaborate on this, because all I can see are the headlines. Clicking on them doesn’t load anything and the headlines just seem like factually correct? Like all I see is

      The European Union has imposed sanctions against journalists Mackevicius and Klyuchenkov.
      propaganda spam

      for instance. Doesn’t seem alt-right or pro-russia to me. More like anti-EU which is often conflated with being pro-russian from my experience. But the EU has been sanctioning journalists for not reporting in a way they like for various reasons like Hüseyin Doğru for pro-palestinian reporting for instance. Pointing out the EU’s censorship is not necessarily pro-russian hence my doubt since all I can see is the headline.

      • Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Those are headlines of news articles that have been written by various “news” sites.

        I cannot find the first one anywhere, but the second one, titled “Zelensky seeking to ‘punish’ Slovakia for peace aspirations – Fico”, is an article on rt.com . RT.com has banned all of Finland from reading its site because in Finland basically everyone would catch its lies, so I cannot read the actual article; I merely found a link to it on a site that has not banned Finns.

        But, using rt.com as a source tells enough anyway.

          • Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            3·
            1 day ago

            Yeah, I know that’s possible. But I really don’t have any need to. I’m not going to bother something like that in order to read rt. I speak Russian well enough that I can read the same news in Russian if I really want to become more stupid.

        • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
          21·
          2 days ago

          RT.com has banned all of Finland from reading its site because in Finland basically everyone would catch its lies

          what no lol https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/27/european-court-upholds-broadcasting-ban-on-russias-rt

          but just because it’s from RT doesn’t necessarily make it false. I would trust them much more on palestinian reporting than Spiegel or Haaretz for instance. They all have ideological bias you just need to be aware which it is. I’m not gonna get news critical of Ukraine from the west, I gotta go to the east for that and vice versa. It’s important to cross-check and verify.

          • Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            RT’s “bias” is that it exists in order to intentionally spread lies.

            And also, I was talkung about the website, not a television channel. In Finland, not in France. It’s indeed the way around that the Russian sites block Finnish IP addresses, not the other way around.

            If it was EU blocking RT’s site, you would be unable to access it from anywhere in EU, not only from the country least willing to censor Internet in all.of EU. Rt.com works just fine from Germany and France, because there people know less about the Russia and the stories are believed by many enough people.

            In Finland rt.com would just scare Finns into disliking the Russia even more. It’s not in the interests of Moscow to let us browse it.

            • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 day ago

              Rt.com works just fine from Germany and France, because there people know less about the Russia and the stories are believed by many enough people.

              i’m in germany, rt.com doesn’t work from here, I don’t know where you got the idea from that RT blocked the entirety of finland because they couldn’t cope with the superior finnish intellect but german and french people are just more gullible I guess?? Fucking wild lmfao 🤣

              It was an EU order because they need to sweep ukraine’s nazi problem under the rug or like provide sources to the contrary?

              • Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                1·
                23 hours ago

                It’s obvious that Ukraine’s nazi problem must be solved. I don’t know if it makes sense to call it “sweeping under the rug”, though. More like “push back within the problem’s own borders” would feel like a better wording :)

                • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  12 hours ago

                  The fact that neonazi paramilitary organisations like the Azov regiment got folded into the ukranian army proper, and how zelensky’s main oppositional candidate zaluzhnyi is a banderite never seem to come up however? Compare with APnews for example.[1] Except of course in russian media, because the most powerful propaganda is the one that is true. Which is why I say you gotta sort the wheat from the chaff and also have an all-grain diet.

                  1. Before my edit I falsely linked an article from the “The economic times” (an indian newspaper) as from “The economist”: Compare with the economist for example. ↩︎

        • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
          2·
          2 days ago

          That’s not what got them banned afaict though? Also I don’t see “alt-right” which is a pretty heavy accusation to just level at someone

          • Shatur@lemmy.ml
            3·
            1 day ago

            I think they’re banned for similar reasons to why Fox News articles are banned. I agree with your comment above - the source doesn’t necessarily make something false. It would be silly for any outlet to post only misinformation. But some sources are worse than others. I wouldn’t read any news about Ukraine from either Ukrainian or Russian state-owned sources. They’re one sided to the extreme.

            Regarding alt right - that might be a stretch, yeah. They’re conservative (for example, they’re anti-LGBT because it’s banned by the law) and telling how’re liberating Ukrainian people. But I don’t think it’s qualified as alt-right.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    232·
    3 days ago

    Seems like this account has only ever been used to spam news from Kremlin. Not sure what that has to do with leftism

    YDI

    Edit:

    I see lib rags spammed all over the feed…

    Yeah it’s maybe not perfect, but pretty sure spamming fox news or whatever would get similarly deleted

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlBanned from communityOP
      314·
      3 days ago

      Im not spamming anything i barely make a dent compared to liberal empire “sources” like Associated Propaganda, New York Lies, BBC…that are constantly posted

  • Ftumch@lemmy.today
    21·
    3 days ago

    Yeah, I’m not surprised an anarchist, anti-authoritarian instance like db0 doesn’t like pro-Russian sources. You should feel right at home on hexbear or lemmygrad, though!

  • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auEnglish
    164·
    3 days ago

    Also western propaganda. Russia isnt ‘taking’ anything theyre liberating Ukrainians who have been under the rule of an illegitimate empire installed government since 2014 and have already voiced they want to be closer to russia

    You are a legitimate piece of shit. Fucking tankie scum defending imperialism with outright misinformation.

  • Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish
    112·
    3 days ago

    People throw around the term “tankie” a lot here, but in this case…