Thus ends all planned Trek shows and movies. No movies or shows are planned or in the works.

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    4 hours ago

    I’m pleased for three reasons:

    • Kurtzmans trek fucked the timeline and ran with it. Fine, do it for one film but why poison the entire franchise? Its made everything a big confused mess.
    • The recent series have deified TOS. Why?? The good thing about the TNG era was it accepted TOS as cannon but didn’t hamstring itself to it and updated everything top-to-bottom so it worked in a modern context. Stories were compelling to a modern audience and the look/feel worked in the current era. And why does Spock have to be in everything??
    • The writing is lazy. Its probably because theres so much cannon now that producers/writers feel like if they dont follow it it won’t be trek. Also, they’ve let cannon write the stories for them. Its just boring to watch. Ten episodes per series feels like too much.
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    3 hours ago

    What is this about new shows? They’ve only made TOS and its movies, TNG and its movies, DS9, and Voyager.

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      I’m actually not sure if it was the number of shows or the fact that Star Trek has historically been episodic (even with DS9’s larger arcs), which is suited to longer seasons. The limited runs of modern shows places a lot more pressure on them to succeed instantly (and have a higher percentage of highly rated episodes) than the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era.

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      Ambivalent.

      So long as the current execs remain the current execs we will not have good Trek.

      Without people with a positive and aspirational ideology for humanity’s future we will not have good Trek.

      When those kinds of people left Trek, Trek should have stayed dead.

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      11 hours ago

      Personally I’m ecstatic. I’ve hated everything Kurtzman had done with Star Trek. The writing has been so bad, I’m fairly certain the writers resumes were just showing their Reddit history and Twitter history.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m sad. There’s long been a chain of movies or shows to look forward to. I’ve enjoyed most of them, been infuriated with a few, but it was all Trek.

      I don’t trust the Ellisons with Trek, so maybe it’s better if they let it fade, but it’s still a loss, and I’m sad.

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      13 hours ago

      Furious.

      Paramount is taking a minority but vocal online response as gospel, like they have for all new trek.

      The 90s era shows there was no social media. All it’s done is give “influencers” with minority opinions that peddle anger to make ad revenue from YouTube and Twitter, an outsized voice for corporations to listen to. The same types of people that seem to have opinions totally anathema to the Trek ethos in general. The anti-Woke brigade coming along as if Trek doing the same thing it always has is somehow new and different.

      For the modern trek shows, that seems to be the only group that Paramount listens to, probably because it requires absolutely no effort. They can have ChatGPT or Grok consolidate those opinions easily.

      It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.

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        It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.

        I personally believe this is the only factor at play. They’re clearing house so they can produce a fascist friendly Trek franchise. It’s the trajectory they’d go in no matter what reception Academy got. The online hubbub is just convenient cover.

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      13 hours ago

      I’m mad. No. Furious. All you bitchin assholes always trashing new trek won again.

      The upcoming Picard movie is also cancelled?!?

      I’m so angry about this.

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        The nutrek complaints were so prolific and cruel, but somehow many many people really liked them. I’ve long thought that the hate campaign was astroturfed, as nobody would watch 5 seasons of a show they hated.

        I’m angry too.

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          You’d be surprised. I gave up on the second episode of Picard and thought the first season of DISC was alright right up until they went to the mirror universe. Decided it wasn’t for me.

          But my dad watched every single episode of everything that Paramount has put out. He hates them, but he watched 'em. Talks about them the same way he talks about ENT or the JJ Abrams movies.

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            Star Wars is religious fantasy not science fiction, Star Trek is endless naval gazing, not science fiction.

            Aside from Andy Weir, people have dumbed down science fiction to soap operas in spaceships and it’s just not interesting or entertaining.

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        12 hours ago

        No fascist propaganda pieces masquerading as Star Trek due to its new ownership. This option may not be optimal, but it’s the lesser of two evils.

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        I haven’t been watching Trek for a long time now, the only recent series I liked was Lower Decks. The Kurtzman stuff just hasn’t been doing anything for me. So I 'm happy that there will be an opportunity for a fresh start. I don’t mind a hiatus because I wasn’t watching anyway.

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          1 hour ago

          Same here. Snw s1 was promising, but they’ve just been getting stupider and stupider with the storylines. LD is the only one still holding up so far.

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        11 hours ago

        People couldn’t stop whining about this show, and yet now that its cancelled they are all gone. Probably because half that shit was just more right-wing astroturf bullshit.