I’m in recovery and ever commercial is “the bold refreshing taste of uncle berry lemon twist vodka. Having a bad day? Drink this. You know you want to. Drink it Michael! please drink responably
Every ad portrays drinking as a party, and your in a pool throwing a beach ball with your friends, and your ex Chrissy finally admits she was wrong. It’s an unrealistically positive. If you drink Tito’s your father in law will finally grow close to you. It’s not Christmas without even Williams egg nog!
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
I’m not saying don’t sell it but why is every add for booze being blasted every. Especially to me because the algorithm knows I’m an alcoholic.
How is that legal?
Please drink responsibly? You’re aiming your ads at alcoholics primarily.
It’s like advertising morphine on skid row. You know what you’re doing.
Edit: for the people saying I’m America centric. I have a Texas education.what the hell is the US? Nothing is beyond our boarders. We are the only land mass. Ill add a picture in the comments.
For the people who happily explained what it’s like in thier country. Makes me feel less crazy for pointing out the problem!
In Russia, alcohol ads are banned. So, beer ads take all the air, rolling their usual, and adding a small fast “nonalcoholic” at the end for their obscure nonalcolohic version no one cares about.
So, effectively, advertising your beer is legal as long as you have a nonalcoholic version.
Damn They manage to weasel around the law anyway.
I don’t even see ads for drinking online, that’s how banned they are in my country.
Srsly. Bring back cigarette ads
TBH: Interesting question, post ruined by this “US-centric or not” BS. (Rest assured that as European, I don’t give a f about your insecurities with your education, at least not in unrelated posts. I’d bet most Europeans would not be able to point to most U.S. on the map, maybe Texas, California, Florida (wink) or NY but that’s about it. Even I know barely half of them, and that’s because I’m a terminally online look-up-everything-on-wikipedia nerd.)
I was just curious about what would people say about ad regulations. I would have no problem with question being US-centric or any-other-country-centric.
Insecurities about our education? It’s a well known fact our education is pretty crappy compared to other stable countries. It’s known we don’t learn shit about other countries. We are behind countries I can’t spell in literacy and 17th in education.
It’s like saying “I’m sorry you’re insecure about your broken leg? “ “im not insecure my leg is broken it just hurts and we should probably be doing something about it”
If I don’t mention I’m talking about America I get people mad at me, if I do mention I’m from America I get people mad at me.
So I guess just be mad and I’ll keep telling jokes.
Btw you do not want to wink at Florida. You won’t like the red neck that winks back lol
I don’t disagree about the education. (Technically I can’t agree too vehemently since I don’t know that much and I don’t live there nor do I know anyone in person who lives in U.S. but I hear about the problems all the time and, fingers crossed, all power to you if you can improve it).
My point was just that, as someone who had a love-hate relationship with alcohol that lasted too long and had a bad break-up, I was really excited about this question and then disappointed about the discussion being derailed, and even more disappointed that OP is contributing to that derailment.
And I guess I overreacted a bit, sorry.
None of that was meant to invalidate your concerns about U.S. centrism and education issues, it’s just a different topic, that’s all.
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scratch that, I just discovered there’s this wheel on my mouse that make bad comment go up up up and away
There’s also a way to delete your comments and block people you don’t like. If you want me to walk you thru the steps let me know.
It took decades of fighting to get smoking banned, and if everyone and their uncle didn’t have a parent dying of lung cancer, it probably wouldn’t have happened.
People have smoked for pretty much all of human history and I don’t think it’s going to stop anytime soon.
Does this include vaping though? The kids are just getting their nicotine in a different form now
Vaping is not as big as pouches of nicotine promoted by cunts.
At least that only hurts its users. IDC about people doing shit to their own bodies
That’s still about about a billion tobacco smokers. And cannabis smoking and vaping are on the rise.
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basically alcohol gets a pass because its a drug that has been in use since the stone age. Im a big “victimless” crimes person and I would like to see much legalized but I would like them all put into a category where its allowed at home or at licensed establishments and advertising is limited to private residences or at businesses that are in the category. I would restrict the signage for the businesses to. So the brothel, race track, casino, dispensiary, liquor store would look rather non descript from the outside but all would have controlled entry to only allow adults and inside it would likely be filled with ads for other establishments.
I agree with everything. I want to add, a lot of drugs have been used since the stone ages. Animals, not just humans, tend to use drugs fairly commonly. It’s only a modern thing to think they’re purely bad.
With that said, modern drugs often remove them from their cultural context, and are in higher purities and larger quantities than are naturally available. Chewing on a coca leaf is a lot different than doing cocaine, even though they’re largely the same thing (though the coca leaf has a lot of stuff that’s removed in processing to make cocaine). Cultures where it’s common, it doesn’t cause nearly the same issues as cocaine does in other places, because they don’t have the same culture around it and are sometimes getting a lot more.
I agree though; people should be allowed to do what they want. The government shouldn’t be deciding it for them, and neither should advertising. They should be free from pressure either way to decide what they want to put into their body.
yeah its kinda wild that cocaine was in coke but and there is nothing about mass withdrawls when it was taken out. It was a small amount and ingested though and who knows how it was obtained form the leaf at that time. I had a convo with an indian coworker around this topic and they mentioned their grandma chewing something that was like the basis of opium and it was just normal back then.
Coca Cola actually had a reasonably large amount in it. I watched this video recently, which is why I thought of coca. It’s a very interesting look into a culture I knew little to nothing of. https://youtu.be/n2ZHXTiM9j0
There’s a whole lot of victims of alcohol tho
yeah and a whole lot of casual users. kinda the same with it all but it does vary and obvious some are so powerful they have been used to make slaves. its like any self destructive behaviour though. hard to draw the line for other people without taking away self determination.
I agree with all that but is lime to see a tax on it to fund treatment centers.
Not sure where you live, but I think basically every state in the USA has an extra tax on alcohol.
Look up “sin tax”
I don’t think much, or any, of that is going to recovery programs though.
oh yeah. I actually think everything should have at least a small transaction tax like 1% but thinks that are bad for you do a bit more. Man would day trading come down if that was the case.
Maybe day trading isn’t a very good thing. These VCs are gutting good business to make profit for one quarter and bouncing. Maybe the stock market should be regulated in some way.
That’s how dispensaries in IL already are.
I see billboards for them all the time. the advertising is certainly not restricted. it and the casinos is the thing that got me. I like the legalization but hate the advertising.
Ok yeah billboards. I forgot about those. Still, the storefronts I’m aware of are pretty neutral.
yeah but this should be the case with liquor stores as well. So basically the only way you should see an ad for any of the other adult activity is by being at one of the adult activities. as an aside though illinois implementation like a lot of illinois is sorta minimal. Really annoyed at the grow restrictions. Sorta hope it gets improved once they can’t suck so much revenue form the surrounding states.
Same could be said about onlyfans tbh
We don’t, alcohol adverts are just as illegal as tobacco. Of course; that might not be the case everywhere on the planet :P
OP is talking about the US
Weird, I see no mention of this “US”, how are we supposed to know?
That big ol brain of yours
Aka “the default place”.
US allows all drugs to be advertised. Ask your doctor if Martinis are right for you.
That’s not true
Direct to Consumer drug advertising is 100% legal in the USA, unlike most countries. WTF…it’s most of late night TV, selling meds to Boomers.
Only legal in USA and New Zealand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-to-consumer_advertising
I appreciate you being friendly with it. I just wasn’t thinking about savages.
Z”that’s a joke by the way.
Our education is American centric. “We arrived to this empty land and these hundreds of tribes had a stick up for here butt so we generously held lad on thier behalf in a trust they have no control over. There were treaties.‘don’t look them up but it wasntotallynlegit broh
Theres actually a joke here “we learn geography based on what war we’re in”
If I moved to your country you probably list me as mentally disabled “the usSr can’t hurt you it been gone-
“WE NEED THIRTY NUCLEAR LAND MINES!”
I appreciate you taking it easy on me
That’s a pretty distasteful and unfunny joke, by the way.
Comedy is how I cope with things. That and drinking. They don’t always combine well.
All jokes are dark. There is no joke that doesn’t Involve pain. Jokes are the way we address Hard realities in a safe way.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the “joke” being bad, and that had no humour in it at all. You were just being a dick. Granted, there’s a fine line between “dark” humour and being a dick, but you most certainly crossed it.
That’s where you are completely wrong
“Joke” doesn’t need to be in quotes. It’s not an opinion or grey area. If something is told as a joke it is a joke.
Your opinion of the joke doesn’t stop it from being a joke. Buy a dictionary .
“No humor at all “ it was sarcastic ghoulish humor by definition. It’s a specific classification
Dark humor doesn’t need to be in quotes all humor is dark humor. That’s what humor is.
You clearly have opinions if I want to hear them I’ll ask for them. Until then just be about your way.
You’re very confused buddy. If you post crappy “jokes” on the internet, be prepared to receive feedback on them. Hopefully next time you’ll actually have something funny to say. Otherwise, “just be about your way”.
Again jokes doesn’t need to be in quotes. Buy a dictionary. Jokes don’t have to personally funny to you to be a joke by definition. A crappy joke is still a joke.
So Id your plan is for me not to say anything you personally don’t like… my answers no.
Feel free to repeat you don’t like it until you are blue in the face, just buy a dictionary so you know what words mean.
There is also a block function . no one Is holding you here. You are choosing to not like my joke and I’m choosing to not care About your opinion. I’m not ashamed of my joke at all. I apologize if you felt offended by that’s the end of my giving a fuck about this matter.
Unfortunately for you I can write a novel Faster than you could name chapter so I have no problem responding to you forever. But you should probably know you won’t ever win.
All jokes are dark. Laughing and crying serve the same function. Knock knock?
Who’s there?
To To who?
It’s to whom actually.
Onoxk Not Jokes Are Based on the pain of appearing foolish im public.
For ten years no one’s ever shown me A joke that isn’t pain.
Closest anyone ever got was “puns Don’t involve pain” how do we as a society react to puns? With anger like Just hearing it hurt us.
Every joke ever told is about pain. places “prove me wrong” In front of my tent
If something was intend as a joke it meets the qualifications for “a joke”. If one person laughs it’s not categorized as unfunny. Someone found it funny.
It’s unfunny to you. That’s it. You are too self absorbed to see that your don’t control what is and isn’t comedy based on your feelings. Buy a dictionary.
Bit of a shot in the dark, but seems like cigarette companies have lied in front of congress / courts saying cigarettes are healthy / not bad for you and have been caught red handed in their lies.
Big alcohol hasn’t ever done anything that egregious. Everyone knows its not exactly healthy to drink, and Big Alcohol doesn’t seem to have ever argued that. I know there’s the occasional “a glass of red wine is good for your heart” stuff, but they’re also not making any attempt to deny a gallon of wine per day will probably cause cirrhosis, ya know?
Just adding. The liquor industry has been pushing the ‘drink responsibly’ line for decades. Back in the day they tried to get an AA member to sign on as a spokesperson but AA asked the member not to do it and they agreed.
Just FYI, the 1 glass a day study didn’t exclude ex alcoholics, so they polluted the zero-glass-a-day group with bad health making the 1-glass-a-day look healthier in comparison.
The study has been redone and it shows that the less alcohol you consume the better it is, no exceptions.
Yeah, in terms of individual health, I have no doubt that avoiding alcohol all together the best bet.
Personally, I subscribe to a flavor of “social lubricant” take on alcohol. That is, being a human and managing all the required social interactions and minor slights, stressors, stigmas, etc is a lot. And alcohol works to turn off some of the parts of the brain most active in social situations. That is to say that alcohol (and/or other mood altering drugs) are bad for the individual, but good for society.
Do need to caveat that take with: there’s a left and a right to what’s acceptable levels of intoxication. I don’t think the world would be better with everyone getting outright shit faced every night, and even a glass every night might be excessive; its easy to fall prey to addiction and that’s undesirable. But also, I don’t think we’d be better off without alcohol all together. I think a couple glasses per week - and not drinking those glasses alone - makes for a healthy enough middle ground.
alcohol … bad for the individual, but good for society
Alcohol is ranked as society’s most harmful drug, because no, for way too many people it’s not just a few drinks per week in a healthy social setting. It’s also one of the few drugs where you can literally die during withdrawal.
Yup, and I think that’s a symptom of how isolating modern society is (as opposed to the disease society suffers from).
I def do not advocate for drinking alone in any quantity, but I would also never advocate to remove alcohol from society. It feels reasonable to conclude that since every society that’s ever had success at some level has had some form of mind altering substance (usually alcohol) that was consumed recreationally and regularly.
You can’t remove it, its too easy to make. It doesnt need to be advertised though.
Well I mean, why stop at just alcohol ads? I say we ban them all.
^^ Only kinda joking there. I do hate ads, esp those that interrupt whatever content I was involved in (TV, streaming, pop-up). Ones that just kinda set on the side are mostly okay (billboards, banner ads, those pamphlets at hotels, etc).
There’s a good reason we’ve had alcohol for almost as long as we’ve had civilization, and I think you hit on some key points of it here. It’s a social lubricant, many important meetings and decisions of history might not have happened without a little drink to loosen some tongues.
That’s not to say that it’s good for you, but alcohol has been present alongside human evolution in sort of the same way that dogs have. We go waaayyyyyy way back together.
Alcohol has also just been more prevalent in human cultures dating back to prehistory. Some of the earliest evidence we have of permanent human settlements were breweries, theorized to have been built by people who still lived semi-nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyles. That would mean that humans first started making permanent settlements and doing large-scale agriculture only to produce alcohol, and still mainly relied on hunting and gathering for their caloric needs. Other drugs / intoxicants have been used by humans for at least as long, but none have been so central to the development of civilization and culture than alcohol.
Yeah, I could never fly an economy flight without a drink or three to lighten the spirits.
… drink or three…
… lighten the spirits.
I see what you did there.
Well, there are places where it is illegal. EU for example.
But of course they get around that by advertising their “0.0%” beers etc.
I haven’t watched advertisements for a long time, but I am pretty sure ads for alcohol are completely normal in Germany. Which is of course wrong, it’s just that we really like lobbyism here.
That loophole is closed in Norway at least.
Can’t even advertise for a Heineken T-shirt if you wanted to
Did you guys get rid of that “sändarlandsprincipen” or whatever it is? For beer and such, they usually still do the 0,0% shit, but there’s tons of commercials for wine and liquor, which don’t exactly sell alcohol-free versions…
And if it’s not alcohol commercials in Sweden, it’s commercials for online casinos, which is also supposed to be illegal to advertise.
There is no EU law forbidding alcohol advertisements. Most EU countries have a mix of local laws and self regulation, and only a few of those fully forbid it.
I believe advertising is allowed after certain hours in most countries. But now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve seen any ads for alcohol.
The only exception maybe the “buy 2 packs of cigarettes and get a beer for free” promotion, because somehow tobacco stores can still openly advertise.
They have better
briberslobbyistsYou know when you see an advertisement for a casino, and they have a picture of a guy winning money? That’s false advertising, because that happens the least. That’s like if you’re advertising a hamburger, they could show a guy choking. “This is what happened once.”
Mitch Hedberg
who tf is we?
It’s the Royal we
One thing you see in the alcohol adds, no one ever actually drinks on screen.
I am aware of that. I just don’t see that as “problem solved” when they show a nice bourbon being poured onto clear ice.
Similarly, why are they allowed to advertise every fancy new and half untested medicine out there?
Like, take such and such drug to eliminate pimples, but possible side effects are hair loss, heart attack, brain bleeding, rectal leakage, miscarriage, loss of fingernails and toenails, blah blah…
Ask your doctor if Nwxalviva is right for you
“Yeah, I know you went through 8 years of med school and internships and have years and years of experience and ongoing education, but I heard part of a 30 second commercial playing in the background so I think I’m pretty well qualified to make this suggestion to you…”
It’s just “ask your doctor if a company making Nwxalviva already pays them or not yet” in disguise
