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    19 days ago

    I’ve been avoiding it, so this is the first view of the iran war I’ve had. It’s pretty cool, and those are pretty good pictures. Im sure they’ll be disregarded as AI, by the US but it’s very cool.

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    18 days ago

    I hear enough made up shit from Trump. I don’t need this too.

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      18 days ago

      Where’s the lie though? We all watched these events develop in real-time, where’s the made up shit you’re seeing?

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        The part where the successful rescuing of two downed pilots was secretely a failed attempted at taking enriched uranium. It’s what “Tabas Operation 2” implies.

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            So you’re telling me Trump’s master plan was to bomb a facility in Isfahan, wait a full year, say US jets can’t be shot down then immediately have a US jet be shot down, then run a rescue operation as a secret cover for… digging up some enriched uranium under a ton of rubble miles away that’s just been sitting there for a year?

            Leave the propaganda the guy making the AI Lego videos. At least they have funny songs.

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              Consider the fact that Trump is a moron and that anyone who pushes back against him gets fired and replaced with a yes-man.

              Now, with this in mind, is it hard to imagine Trump thought he could just send in someone to take the uranium?

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              Isfahan, Fordow and Natanz are underground nuclear facilities. Iranian have never built nuke enrichment plants above ground, let alone storing military equipment on the surface like Americans did in Gulf monarchies bases. Isfahan is 80 m deep, not even BLU-109 can penetrate, Fordow is over 100 m deep. The fact that you think it’s “rubble” show how naively under-researched you are with events, especially when your food and energy is blockaded by what going on in Hormuz. Keep putting your head in the sand.

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                This the second time you’ve mansplained something in this conversation without actually responding to a point I’ve made.

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              You give the impression of submission to Great Man Theory. Furthermore, the people fighting the genocidaires are the good guys.

              Trump and the likes of him are more honest and less cowardly than you and your brand of “anti-imperialism”. They are more honest about their fascism, you hide behind your criticism against those who fight the former.

              Iran, with all its social conservatism, is infinitely less reactionary than the imperialism-subsidised pseudo-anti-imperialist shit takes of these westerners. The latter? Racist fucking freaks.

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                You give the impression of someone who regularly vomits unprompted pseudo-intellectual anecdotes.

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                  Nah. I’m just not white. This ain’t that hard to understand. And you’re more than smart enough to understand what I am saying, or at least look these things up. You’re just too bigoted to agree (well, for now anyway. Your views are not immutable).

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              Where’s this alleged pilot they “rescued”? Why haven’t we seen them? We don’t know their name or face even though they’re supposedly safe and sound now.

              For someone who hates Trump so much you seem eager to believe he’s competent enough to pull off a rescue mission deep within enemy territory and has the empathy required to risk the lives of other soldiers just to rescue one pilot.

              Why do you think so highly of Trump?

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                Usually they don’t announce the names of personnel tied to military operations for privacy and other reasons. Being the victim of something while deployed also has different rules such as notifying family before notifying the public. You can look them up if you want, but that would answer your question of why the pilot’s names haven’t been released.

                I don’t believe Trump had anything to do with the success of the rescue operation other than authorizing it as a way to save face after being made a fool of in relation to his comments on US air superiority. I think it’s disingenuous on your part to tie my acknowledgement of a successful military operation to supposed admiration for Trump.

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                  You’re telling me Trump, the biggest egomaniac in the government right now, was such a well-behaved good boy that he followed all the rules of maintaining secrecy of a person he could’ve used for political clout to boast his image?

                  No, sorry, I stopped believing in fairy tales a long time ago.

                  Whatever excuses you want to bring out Donald Trump is the commander-in-chief. He would not have signed off on an operation to rescue one pilot. That is not who he is; he does not fucking care. This is a man who has mocked POWs. Like many Americans you are so deep in the pro-war death cult you want to believe in the myth of the heroic U.S. military that is an unstoppable force and which does not exist outside of fiction while trying to severe its connection to Trump and the MAGA klan to the point of rejecting reality itself.

                  There is no evidence that a pilot was rescued. There is no logic behind a rescue operation. There is no reason to believe a rescue operation took place. And, most crucially, there is no reason to believe the U.S. government - which is infamous for lying, repeatedly, even before Trump took power but especially so afterwards - or the U.S. military - a gang of rapists, baby killers, and genocidal fascists - are telling the truth.

                  So yeah, no, I’m gonna dispute American claims of total success because since Israel & America started this war we’ve seen nothing short of total humiliating failure and defeat; U.S. warships retreating, U.S. bases annihilated, sailors mutinying and setting fire to their own ships, the complete depletion of U.S. & Israeli anti-missile stockpiles, abandonment of military facilities, and meanwhile Iran has barely gotten scratched. If Iran says it was a false flag to take a uranium facility I believe them because of the three participants in this conflict they’ve proven the most honest so far and also because they’re not blowing up children through terror bombing and also because their leader isn’t a fascist pedophile who lies instinctively every time he opens his mouth.