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I can hear .ml screeching from here
Boy, OP, here comes all the angry tankies in this post and in your comment box. RIP.
Despite the differences, ideologues from any group say the same thing: “But, but, it wasn’t real [insert favourite ideology]. It has actually never even been tried!”
Yeah, I don’t really care about what the rose-tinted form ought to be, I am more concerned about what it has been in practice. I can’t remember who it was but a Greek philosopher mentioned practising and observing a concept to see if it works in real life or not, or what could be rectified. This is important.
Socialism builds walls to keep people in, capitalism builds walls to keep people out.
The commonality is that people aren’t happy where they are and are prevented from moving by systems of violence.not a fan of authoritarian state capitalist regimes parading as “communist states” myself.
but what do i know. im just some prole. :(
Which communist states would you qualify?
there can be only one and it’s never existed.
Welcome to cop city.
ussr has been gone for what 30 years?
why do i see memes abt it every fucking day here
tankie bait. They get their knickers in a twist every time.
When clowns stop defending and downplaying the USSR 30 years after the empire collapsed, I’ll stop joking about it!
couldnt you put your effort into something worthwhile? make fun of the current authoritarian regimes instead of trying to “own the
libstankies”I am seeing more tankie posts recently mocking anyone to the right of them regardless of extreme. Maybe OP is only trying to counter that.
I do loathe authoritarians of all shapes, yet nobody crawls out of the woodwork to moan nearly so loudly as when I “own the tankies”, as you put it.
I ain’t religous, but there’s not much use in preaching to the choir!
not much use in preaching to the choir!
ah yes, thats why this is posted on lw, to really get those differing opinions!
How I got banned for “spam” on .ml:
If you have suggestions where differing opinions aren’t censored, I’m open to it! Sadly the Soviet approach to jokes is more common than not.
Why does this meme bother them?
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Loathe has an e at the end of it
You forgot to end your sentence with a period, and “loathe” should be in quotes, because you’re quoting them.
What academic sources have you read about the internal functions of the USSR?
What academic sources have you read about the internal functions of the USSR?
lol you don’t need a thesis to know that people having to lining up for basic essentials is broke for a superpower.
fuck mate, even in the 80s you couldn’t just go to the store and buy sour cream - they had no plastics industry, so you’d have to bring your own container to a vendor you know that had received sour cream recently, and they’d measure it out into your container.
Estimate go from 40-60 percent of the entire GDP being wasted on defense because you gotta keep those satellite stans under control.
Read- none of note. Personal experience as a volunteer with a refugee resettlement agency and interacting with refugees from Soviet states- a fuck ton.
Why would you ever limit yourself to academic sources?
Personally, I’d prefer sources that were actually there to any “academic source”.
But that’s just me, you do you, professor.
No one is limiting anyone to academic sources, please don’t try to spin what’s said. It makes you worse at discussion.
What academic sources have you read …
Did you read your comment? It’s you. No spin needed.
Asking if someone has read any academic sources on a subject is different than demanding only academic sources.
It’s allways the ml user.
Imagine wanting people to be educated on a subject before espousing an opinion on it.
Imagine acting like a noble walking among pigs on a shitpost community
Imagine being able to shit post while also not spreading USA propaganda.
Maybe you didn’t notice, but i’m not OP
Also, i would love to hear your high academic backed opinion, explaining why building the wall of berlin was needed.
Maybe you have doubts about its existance? I mean, you are calling it ‘usa propaganda’… can you back that up with some publications?
Edit: take your time to do that research of yours
Meanwhile, the US spends it’s time destroying other countries and installing dictatorships that people flee from and are wondering why the hell there’s such a problem with migrants from said countries.
“But US”
This argument needs to die already. Someone else being bad is not a counter-argument
So idk if you’ve looked outside lately, but the USSR doesn’t exist anymore, and the United States… Does
You judge socialist states by their worst blunders while forgetting half the shit the US did around the world. Then you people argue that socialism could never work-- while living under an economic system that only works for rich pedophiles.
No, I judge socialist states because I was born in one. I’m not an American, I’m from Baltics (Latvia SSR)
The US was actively trying to get whatever talent they could out of the USSR. It’s called brain drain, and it’s an effective way to prevent rival countries from growing.
Last I checked, people with brains have legs. Unless this happens through mass kidnapping, the best way to do this is to have a good place to live.
Brain drain happened during the Nazi uprising, in 2025 after MAGA took over, and it happens at many game companies that treat their employees badly. But it’s generally poor management and a simple external invitation, not a “stealing” effort.
It’s easy to provide a good place to live when you’ve got tons of wealth. Just because the US treats some people well to score political points, doesn’t mean it’s a better place to live overall. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, you can see how the US acts when there’s no competition. Wealth inequality soars, civil rights get rolled back, social services get cut, and the cost of living goes crazy, including the cost of schooling that was supposed to put us ahead. It’s why the US screams endlessly about how dangerous China is, because they don’t want competition that would require them to provide some benefits for their peasants so they can continue thinking the US is “the greatest country in the world”.
It’s a well- known fallacy and propaganda strategy.
In fact, the USSR itself used it a lot, typically deflecting any criticism from the US with “but you hang negroes” back when that particular atrocity was a frequent occurrence.
If you look at the same source that you’ve provided, you will also see that using the label “whataboutism” is in itself a fallacy and propaganda strategy.
So… irrelevant… your fallacious propaganda strategy is rejected.
using the label “whataboutism” is in itself a fallacy and propaganda strategy.
Is has been CLAIMED by people defending their own use of whataboutism, sure, but they’re wrong.
They’re literally claiming that it’s a tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy) fallacy to point out this particular tu quoque fallacy 🙄
So… irrelevant… your fallacious propaganda strategy is rejected.
Right back at you.
Why do you think they are arguing? They are comparing.
We all do it every day, it’s unavoidable and will never die until the last human is dust. You need to keep a stiff upper lip and carry on. Be brave! Comparisons can’t hurt you.
It’s relevant since the US is an actual, current threat. Arguements don’t happen in a void, what about the fucking thing happening right now is a valid argument under a lazy irrelevant post like this one
“But Russia (China’s ally)”
Thank god the East Germans did not have systemic sexual abuse of children. Phew.
Holy shit this is actually real.
What the fuck lol
As opposed to Trump’s wall which aims to keep people out…
You actually think its to keep people out?
I can’t tell if this woooshed, or slammed too hard into your forehead, so well said!
Thx It’s called a disorder 👌
