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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 22 days ago

How DARE Martin Niemoeller ignore 2020's Amerikkka back in the 1950's

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How DARE Martin Niemoeller ignore 2020's Amerikkka back in the 1950's

Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 22 days ago
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https://xcancel.com/i/status/2058966573902164416

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  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I mean we’re like 4 or 5 layers deep into “then they came” in modern America. They already came for the communists over a hundred years ago and it never really stopped. We’re at the “then they came for the immigrants” part because everything’s been so hollowed out already.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      A thousand times this

      The Niemoeller poem is basically US foreign and domestic policy.

    • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The lesson fascists learnt from Nazi Germany is that speedruns create opposition while slow burn genocide doesn’t even register to libs.

  • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I am so glad I never had a Twitter account

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      fun fact: every primary source for the holodomir goes back to nazi germany

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        They hate that fact soooo much

        Every piece of evidence says that it was a famine that affected numerous Soviet states and had mismanagement and all sorts of failures

        But that’s not good enough because that’s not a genocide. So they need to go find people who were willing to say the famine in the USSR was a targeted ethnocide of western Ukrainians. The people saying such things were all of the strangelove-wow variety circa 1940.

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          They hate that fact soooo much

          have you considered that pointing out the holodomor is nazi propaganda is like obsessing over trans women in sports?

          • Got banned as a “fascist sympathizer” from games@hexbear.net boowomp
          • cattish [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            21 days ago

            After I moved to .zip, I came across !games@hexbear.net, which seemed to be free from anything overtly political […]

            What a great room reader.

      • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Oh realy? Tell me more

        • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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          thats it. that’s the whole thing.

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          You can read Douglas Tottle’s book, Fraud, Famine, and Fascism. Libs love to discount it offhand with “oh Tottle is a biased propagandist”, “flat earth historian”, “he’s denying a genocide that’s proven beyond any doubt” and whatever other cliché they use, but they never engage with his sources, which are numerous and thorough.

          Don’t even mention to them the fact that the US is among a ridiculously thin minority of countries that recognize the so-called Holodomor. One gringo’s opinion is worth a hundred foreigners’ (provided it’s the State Department line, otherwise you’re just the Alex Jones of the left or whatever).

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      The Ukranian is a shrodingers slav for the nazis. They’re itching to kill every last one of em but anti-communism is a more fundamental piece of their ideology than racism, so they’re forced into collaboration and thus peddling the myth that the 1932-33 famine was genocidal (which is comically ahistorical).

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      The spectre of communism as rhetorical glue

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    What happens in a person’s life to produce this blend of ignorance and arrogance?

    Like, this has to be a bit, right?

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    deleted by creator

    • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Does that last remark mean she’s unemployed?

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      Did history begin in 2024 for this person? “first victim of the trump administration”

      Yeah because America was famously not attacking groups of people before this. I mean we could easily rewrite the poem to be about native americans, black people, striking railway workers, Filipinos, Hawaiians, black people again, Iraqis, but like it would be really long if we wanted to include every single marginalized group that America has oppressed. The poem would also include communists.

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    it’s only existential to you when it’s your ideology on the line

    The twithead doesn’t realize how ironic it is that they say that, as they refuse to care because it’s not them. Almost like it’s the whole point of the poem.

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    There’s a reason they’re called ‘reactionaries’

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    Where are the communists that would have prevented this, blvckcat?

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    As cringe as I have been and as cringe as I currently am at least I can say I am not you. That’s a comfort for me.

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    First they came for the communists

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    “First they come for you” - the abbreviated version used to make Burgerlanders understand

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