While the intake report memorialized allegations that multiple girls were murdered and buried at a Trump golf course, newly released Epstein records suggest federal investigators ultimately viewed the source skeptically. Other FBI summaries released by the Justice Department indicate complainants making similar allegations were “deemed not credible,” and no publicly released records show that authorities excavated any Trump golf course or uncovered evidence supporting the claims.

Guess the rich only ever saw consequences once: France in 1792

What would America’s Storming the Bastille moment even look like? Storming the child-rape mansion that is Mar-a-Lago? Who’s head would get carried away on a pike? Miller’s? Theil’s? Musk’s?

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    Guys, hold on. Everyone stop.

    Have you seen the Dow?

    Uh oh! It’s BELOW 50k?

    Well then, let’s continue talking about Epstein then.

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    It’s entirely speculation. It also makes no sense to shit in your own backyard, especially if you’re rich.

    OP, you should be pursuing actual evidence to heresay before dedicating your trust 100% to it, just because it aligns with what you’d like to be true. I know one group of people that do that a lot…

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    Our federal government is no longer relevant, get rid of all of them. It’s rotten to the core.

    State governments already duplicate much of what the feds do already, we’ll be fine.

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      But then we’ll get conquered by Russia or China! Just imagine what that would look like. We’d toil our lives away for a handful of oligarchs, get executed in the streets, and be shipped off to death camps. We’d have sham elections with no impact on public policy. Your ability to obtain nice things would depend on an arcane and opaque scoring system run by nefarious unseen overlords. There would be literal slavery.

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      I used to be big on States’ Rights because I thought it made more sense for people to make rules more specific to them but then I realized the only reason politicians push that is to do whack shit like overturn abortion and now some are even arguing we should go back to when women couldn’t work. If I was the president and I cut back rules so States could decide I guarantee laws like that would be passed within a week.

      The more I read about it the more im glad that the federal government is strong enough to stop States from extorting or attacking each other (like how New York would basically bully New Jersey). I just hate that every election seems to be between morally bankrupt nepo-babies and it’s been going on so long that the corruption would literally need a dictator to pull an El Salvador to fix

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    I wasn’t able to find anything that confirms “knew and funded” as true. To state the facts which is all we need to know is that Trump called Palm Beach police in 2006 and said “everyone” knew Epstein was abusing young girls. Also Trump said he was never on Epstein’s plane which is a proven lie.

    There’s no need to push beyond what’s already proven verifiable facts. Trump is a liar, was on Epstein’s plane many times, and was close friends with known pedophile Epstein. That’s enough fact to know he’s a disgusting lying fuck.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74xgp81pqgo

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    Death to the Trump family. Death to the oligarchs. Take back the planet from greed.

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      What do you think the odds are of that happening, this year or next or whatever?

      Keep in mind, this thing in Iran won’t end. It might get hot and cold with ceasefires Israel routinely, if not daily, violates.

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        After a successful op in Venezuela, he thought he could boost his rep with another one, and then blew it in Iran.

        Now he’ll want an easy win to redeem himself, and he’ll go all in on Cuba, with troops and everything, figuring it will be a walk in the park since it’s right off the coast.

        But he’ll fuck it up, and kill lots of American troops, and innocent Cubans, and even the American Cubans will get pissed off, and he’ll be in an even worse situation than before.

        Never underestimate his ability to totally fuck up EVERYTHING.

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          Initial military success in regard to Venezuela. When the Venezuelan people realize how badly they are getting shafted, they will rebel and take control of their oil again.

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        The Iran situation is going to end the same way as Afghanistan. USA will declare job done and just leave, leaving the mess for others to sort out. Oil production will ramp up elsewhere where it’s suddenly profitable to extract because of the higher prices which will eventually find a new balance. Israel will kill a lot of people domestically and play the victim.

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        What do you think the odds are of that happening, this year or next or whatever?

        Feels like an October Surprise moment, especially if Republicans are worried about losing in Florida.

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          Republicans aren’t worried about losing Florida it’s on lock as I understand it.

          But yeah, right before the elections is not a bad guess. I think it would hurt them more than help, but if they manufactured a pretext and did something right before the election before it became clear this was more hamfisted leadership it might not hurt.

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            Republicans aren’t worried about losing Florida

            Their approval rating has been underwater for months, even in that cursed state.

            But yeah, right before the elections is not a bad guess. I think it would hurt them more than help, but if they manufactured a pretext and did something right before the election before it became clear this was more hamfisted leadership it might not hurt.

            The US media does a great job of taking everything Trump says at face value and in the best possible framing for about three weeks after he says it, and then running a bunch of “Can’t believe y’all let Lucy trick you with that football again” articles once the latest fuckery is in the rearview mirror.

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              Their approval rating has been underwater for months, even in that cursed state.

              He made gains with Hispanics then proceeded to sic ICE on them. Now many are conservative as hell and have their own issues with colorism and racism, but I am curious to see how this plays out in 2028.

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            Imagine being so fucking stupid you believe a republican would do anything positive for anyone but themselves.

            You’re already mentally brain dead if you think a democrat would ever help you, you’ve got to be literal rotting zombie flesh puppeted by the propaganda of pedophiles to believe a word a republican says.

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              believe a word a republican says

              “Increase the federal minimum wage to $15 across the country and eliminate the minimum tipped wage.” ~Joe Biden

              not even one standalone bill. they only needed a majority. They skip super majority requirements all of the time with a majority vote, they’ve done it hundreds of times (it’s a parliamentary rule only and not the law).

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        As an armchair general I would guess before midterms if they are set to lose (and if losing means they won’t be able to start a new invasion), and after if not. But in any case Cuba isn’t much of a challenge compared to Iran, so it won’t be hard to invade, militarily speaking

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      While harassing and terrorizing drag queens for being gRoOmErS, and not shutting up about the liberal Hollywood elite for, well, doing the same thing.

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        Hollywood is not now nor have they ever been very progressive in our lifetimes. They do support like lgbtq, and some social issues. The rich don’t actually care about that, they care about the money, they are just using people on this to get what they want.

        They also mostly suck at their jobs. And it’s about to get magnitudes worse on every score with this paramount bullshit. 3 studios will control like 75% of movie studios. Sony another several percent.

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    The Epstein files must say even worse things. That’s why we are at war with Iran. What a waste all around for everybody and everything.

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      You know what they say, a picture says a thousand words, and a video of a member of the ruling class fucking a child is worth a lot more.

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    “As you know I represent the Rothschild’s”

    • Jeffery Epstein

    You think it’s a coincidence Ivanka Trump “discovered” an Island they wanted to develop as a luxury resort for billionaires while on (in kushner’s own words) Nat Rothschild’s yacht? You think it’s a coincidence Don Jr married Epstein s bankers daughter? The Trumps have been trafficking and most likely murdering children for decades.

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      No no no. The Q people have been telling me it has to be the Democrats doing this. Hillary was masterminding it all from the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement, I’m told.

      Now excuse me, I gotta wait for the next Q drop to explain it all…

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        Storming the pizza parlor makes about as much sense as storming the golf courses based on non-credible allegations.

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          Given that was an inside job it does actually lend credibility to the overarching story that’s being proven true with each release.

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      It"s very clear that the trumps are building a personal empire and what is even more clear is that they are getting away with it as well. Like, how is it so easy? Is there no one just enough to standup to that? No one?

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        It’s easy because money buys protection. If you’re making a ton of money, you’re probably doing shitty things or associated with doing skeptical things for shitty people which means there’s blackmail.

        Basically, they keep each other in line and protect their wealth which can be used against anyone that comes after them because those people don’t have wealth.

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          Yeah but you’d think that at some point you’d reach diminishing returns where you’d get resistance but everyone in the american sphere of influence is either playing it low waiting for opportunities or are straight complicit.

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      Epstein’s banker daughter? What? Epstein didn’t have any public kids and don jr married two models…