Not sure why media is trying to make this a thing, it isn’t. There’s thousands and thousands of posts/videos by visiting Europeans saying they’re pissed because they were lied to about America being a shit hole and everyone there is selfish and rude.
Keller said he’s changed the system so customers with reservations have to pre-pay for drinks, including a service charge. “It’s just to protect our staff,” he said.
Protect your staff by paying them ffs.
If tips combined with wages do not reach the state minimum of $7.25, the employer must make up the difference. “If they don’t receive any tips, it’s impossible to survive in the service industry,” Thurnher said.
If your minimum wage is lower than a living wage, your system sucks.
Whenever I hear anything about US, I am just realising again and again how I never want to visit this sick country.
I, a US citizen, am also confused by tipping culture in the US.
Do you have to tip at McDonald’s, or BK, and the like?
No.
Generally the historical rule is sit down restaurants only, where someone serves you, or tip a driver if your food gets delivered.
So even if you sit down, if you got up to collect your food and/or bussed your dishes yourself then it’s not expected.
At bars generally you tip on all drinks, though I’d say less if all they did was open something and/or pour. Definitely tip on cocktails though.
That being said two things have happened in the past 6 years:
- there was a lot of community support to tip on take out orders during Covid to help local places survive. A lot of places still expect this on take out nowadays which is a shame. That being said I still like supporting local places so tip when I can, but less than I would sitting in and dining there.
- with everyone moving to electronic point of sales systems the owners of lots of places of “fast food” or coffee shops these days are now setting them up so they ask for tips after any transaction, and in many cases where they previously didn’t ask, those tips are not going to staff, just being collected by the owners which may be illegal in some places. Not to mention they always have three suggested tip rates, and there’s no legal rule they be set to anything specific or they be in any order. So one place may be 15%, 18%, 20%, and another place may be 25%, 23%, 20%. So if you’re used to hitting the first option (generally used to be 15%) automatically now you’re way over-tipping your usual amount. This results in customers just not returning if they realized what happened, hurting the overall business. But like most owners / marketers they can’t see past the next quarter or so of transactions and don’t care about long term.
Everyone hates tipping, but this won’t affect US tipping culture at all. Paying staff almost nothing and making them depend on tips is allowed by US law. As long as that doesnt change, businesses will always pay their staff as little as they can get away with.
Businesses here are not nice. If a waiter can’t make rent, then its time to fire them and hire another waiter. Which they can do because most states have at will employment. So you can fire anyone at any time, for any reason. No notice needed, and you dont have to pay them any compensation.
This is why its always interesting when people (especially from europe) think that not paying tips is going to cause some kind of transformation. We are a corporate country. If you dont go after the business owners, there will be no change.
What if as a customer I am not satisfied with the product? I certainly will not leave a tip and it may not be the employee’s fault, but he is the only one who will not be paid. Once, slavery was allowed by the US Constitution, today paying employees almost nothing and relying on tips is allowed by US law. I know it’s not the same (not even close), but how do employees feel when they work, are not paid, and depend on the kindness of the customer?
Alternative headline: Europeans dumped 23 metric tons of trash in front of business owner’s McMansion to demand fair wages and job security for workers.
Keller said he’s changed the system so customers with reservations have to pre-pay for drinks, including a service charge. “It’s just to protect our staff,”
So, customers not paying tips is forcing the business to pay a living wage, as well as incorporate wages into the price model of products rather than leave it as a hidden morality tax?
Oh, The horror. /s
No? They are just going to mandatory tips that are included in the check.
In other countries that’s called a service charge and is usually included in the price of what you buy and is given to the employees via a thing called a wage
Also you can’t fire anyone without proper cause, and they are fully insured.
They won’t pay a living wage. That is just wishful thinking. They will just replace staff that quit, and continue to pay them nothing.
Seems like a great material for a boycott campaign - “do not eat where they do not pay the workers”, but sadly I have a lot of doubts that people in USA are capable for such things. Too much freedom I suppose.
I find service charges pretty horrifying. I would like the number on the menu to be the number that I actually pay when I cash out, and service charges don’t do that.
I’ve lived in the US for decades and I would like this too. The whole tip culture here is stupid. Just include a gratuity for the staff by default. Or better still, pay them a living wage like most other countries.
Sounds like a good “problem” to me. Fuck tipping. It all originated from slavery also.
It really obscures costs to the consumer who is required to do math every time. A $20 meal plus tax plus tip lol. So stupid. Just post the price for the thing and be done with it.
While I find tipping “culture” (Inculture, rather) bad, the fact that it forces people to do some math is kinda good.
Yeah, it’s dumb. One of the many things we do differently than the whole rest of the world in service to the civic religion of capitalism.
It’s worse than that. It comes from racism and slavery. When you started having folks freed up from slavery who were doing jobs like being a waiter, Rich folk set the system up under the guise of saying good service gets good tips, but really it allowed them not to pay them. And so they had to work really hard for whatever tips they could get.
And that basically continues today. The system is absolutely bullshit.
I find the forced tip is better than the emotional extortion at the payment terminal… it ends up being the same price
And if it’s a forced tip, just take the next logical and include the service in the price of the item… and if service really isnt included in the production of the food, just let me pick it up from the kitchen myself. No need to pay $5 just to walk 20m with a plate.
Finally, the next logical step, include any taxes in the menu price and make round numbers… $10, $15, $18, etc… final bill $55… this is what they do in most of europe
I hate looking at bills that have numbers seemingly generated by RNG… $54.97 for a meal, wtf… just make it $55
Is USA participating in some sort of - mental circus competition?
There’s no fucking way the boh would just be ok with customers “just picking up their food from the kitchen” that’sa joke, right? Those people WILL spit in your food if you so much as look at them funny back there.
You think tipping servers is so bad? Deal with the head chef looking at your stupid gaping maw in the middle of dinner service. You’ll beg to tip a server.
Yeah, obviously i dont think customers should be in the kitchen…
Thats why it makes no sense for “carrying food from the kitchen” to be an optional service charge… it’s a MANDATORY part of the product you are selling… so make it part of the price…
Lol these people have no clue how many drugs the BOH is on at all times, half of them have prison records, you’ll hear at least one slur, and might get hit on by the dish, it’s lawless. There’s a reason most of them can’t get a corporate job lol.
Well, the US are the only country i know of that shifts the responsibility of making sure employees can have a home and food from the employer to the costumer. In central Europe, we tip when the service was excellent, but not by default, and only when being waited at a table.
THIS. I enjoy tipping for good service, when it’s above-and-beyond. But a living wage shouldn’t depend on a surprise tax levied 100% of the time. I worked as a waiter and I was pretty good. I enjoyed the tips I earned, but I worked in a country where the wage for a waiter was the same as a cook, and tips were excellent gravy for me and the BoH heroes who made me look good.
I live in Central Europe too but I have almost the opposite experience. The way I see it is that tipping culture is way worse in the US but we were always bad here aswell and we’re inching towards them every year. Honestly I also doubt that service industry people are not getting fucked almost everywhere in Europe.
In most of EU noone will think any less of you if you just pay your bill
The price on the menu isn’t anywhere near the bill the expect you to pay at the end.
Bill = menu-price + taxes + 20% tip
(where 20% is just a rough average)
North americans are so stupid that some restautants tried in canada and the US to simplify things
menu-price = food + taxes + 20% tip
Final bill ends up being the same price as before but people saw bigger number and freaked out…
They’d rather be lied to by the menu price and then scammed for tips at the very end rather than have clear and transparent pricing…
I dont want to live on this planet anymore
a while ago, I wanna say 2010ish, the new CEO of JCPenney had a bold new vision for the brand. Instead of things being marked up and then perpetually “on sale,” what if they just… marked things as the price they are? Sales collapsed by 25% and the company lost a billion dollars in a single year.
There is a reason things are the way they are, no matter how stupid they look. Consumer psychology is a trip.
Edit: and the thing is this probably works on the reader of this comment as well. Consumers, when asked, will say they prefer transparent pricing structures. But their real world behavior is the exact opposite.
Should be the employer paying their employee for doing their job, not the customer
America is a broken country that rewards the rich few and has no empathy for the rest
This is just one symptom of that
Exactly. Also just write the price you got to pay, including tax, service, the whole. Just the full price!
(Either that, or I wanna see a full break-up of the costs /s … how much the farmer charges, transport, wholesale, sellers cost & profit, taxes … everything)
…but that doesn’t make it “confusing”. I’m not sure why any adult would find +20% confusing. Is it fair? That’s a different question.
Most of the rest of the world expects that if you have 10 money, and see something that is advertised as costing 10 money, you can buy it.
Right and here in America we don’t piss on the streets as a matter of culture and toss trash out the window. Like a lot of the world. So, it’s bit like “the rest of the world” isnt a good metric.
But “the rest of the world” has good metric
The US is known for the clean city streets and good access to free public toilets, after all.
I learned this at a kid in the US. This fast food place had cookies labeled "99¢!” so said “mom can I have a dollar for a cookie?” and she gave me one, as a treat. I hope to the register and the girl says “ok it’s actually $1.06”.
I don’t think I got the cookie that day. I don’t remember it, but if I did it was soured by capitalism.
The American bait n switch
Yes, it’s confusing to say something costs $X then charge the customer $X+$Y.
Almost like it’s deceptive.
That’s literally the reason given in the article why it’s confusing. It didn’t even have to exist if the employer paid the employee as I wrote above. The existence of the expensive tipping itself is confusing.
It’s not though. American employers don’t want to pay a living wage, therefore a 20%tax is issued to the diner. That’s not confusing and can be summed up in one sentence. If the idea is make other nations seem like idiots then… ok, I guess but it’s not “confusing”. Oh nooooo, in England I have to pay a tax on television? I’m so stupid and confused.
Why is it 20 now, it used to be 15?
It’s been 20 since before I was a server and that was 25 years ago. Fucking cave dwellers.
I’m an American. I was born here. I’m used to the taxes and the tipping and all of that stuff.
I don’t find it confusing, sure. But I’m also used to it.
But as an analogy, imagine that the posted speed limit wasn’t the actual speed limit. Well, in fact, it sort of works like that because you can usually but not always go 5 to 10 mph over.
But let’s say that it was a little confusing. That it was more like 20%. Or it depended on some sort of. I don’t know how to make this analogy work, but maybe sometimes it was 20%, sometimes it was 25%, sometimes it was 15%. The point is that having to calculate that all of a sudden when you never have before is difficult and a pain in the ass.
And if you come from a country with a speed limit, is the speed limit or it’s like always like five over would be safe or something like that. This percent thing is bullshit to you because you’ve never had to deal with this stupidity before. Doesn’t matter that the natives have no worries about it, this is weird and different and bullshit and there’s no good reason for it.
Not the greatest analogy, but if you try and use it to you know get an idea of how they feel about it. I hope it helps a little bit
It’s not only about confusion for me, it feels wrong and uncenessary abusive. This shit is illegal on most of the first world for a reason!
So basically the history of tipping comes from post-slavery times. When frankly whites were trying to keep blacks down. It has a terrible history, a terrible purpose. They were trying to not have to pay people who deserved a living wage.
So while I’m not certain, I think the practice should be strictly illegal, it certainly is bullshit. So I have a hard time disagreeing with you LOL
…but that doesn’t make it “confusing”. I’m not sure why any adult would find +20% confusing.
We can do the math for sure, but we are not interested in the break-down of the costs. Just tell us the final price, that’s all that matters. We are used to be presented with the price we are gonna have to pay. Not some math at the end of the meal figuring out what the local tax rate is, guessing the expected tip of 15%-40% not based on actual service but … just the waiter’s expectations (or more frequently the waiter’s demand)
Not based on actual service but based on social mores and one’s ability to cold read the waiter?
Sounds like just what I need when all the blood has just gone from my brain to my belly
Taxes not included is insane.
These days I’ve seen people trying to push 30% to 40% as the minimum tip. Either that or they sneak it in with service charges or gratuity fees with a suggestion of a 25% tip on top.
Yeah the combo of tips + taxes is enough to throw any european off. 13% where I am, so mentally disregarding the final price presented and then adding 33% on top of that is a huge difference than paying the number the items added up to on the receipt, and then tipping if the service was excellent.
I think State taxes are lower than my provincial tax generally, but its a big shoft mentally. You have to fundamentally accept and financially reward a system that considers underpaying its employees completely normal and actively resists improvements for those employees.
i do not tip the tax.
Hold on. Is there no tax on the tip?
Only as of the bill last year the president passed, but that no tax on tips, a campaign pledge, is temporary and will expire. I think after this year.
As of last year, for the most common scenarios, yes, up to $25,000. https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/personal-finance/no-tax-on-tips
Well that explains why it’s so prevalent
Whats prevalent? Tips have been included in everything since covid.
Tipping is prevalent.
Only if the server reports it as income (in Canada, at least).
Almost all tips are by credit card now in the US so most all of them you can’t underreport for taxes anymore.
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Its not hard. You tip 20% when you dine in. You can tip over that if you feel like it. You tip 10% to go/pickup. If you cant figure 10% of a number, you shouldn’t be in charge of financial decisions, including but not limited to tipping.
Its not hard. You add 20% when you pay your employees You can pay over that if you feel like it. If you cant pay your employees, you shouldn’t be in charge of financial decisions, including but not limited to operating an eatery.
The funny part is that a 20% wage increase doesnt even get a server up to minimum wage. Tipping is the wage in the industry and its the difference between making rent and sleeping in the car.
Honestly, if you cant afford to pay 20% of the cost of your meal and not sweat it, you probably shouldn’t be eating at a restaurant. Grocery stores dont expect tips, and the food is at least half the price. Oh, and grocery workers make at least minimum wage, which is as much as a 500% raise over tipped wage depending on the state. Get your numbers up if you want to make a point.
I don’t need to get my numbers up; I come from a country that doesn’t dump the responsibility to ensure that people earn a living wage on me every time I feel like a sandwich.
Or in other words: we’re civilised.
Edit to add: I’m rereading what you wrote. A 20% raise doesn’t give you a minimum wage? What the fuck. Those are slave conditions.
Depends on the state / county / city.
In my county, King County in WA state, servers make the same minimum wage everyone else does.
That being said most places offer more than minimum wage when I see signs out with their hiring rates.
You seem to really know your stuff, so can you please fill us poor confused Europeans in on whether we should tip:
- Gas station clerk
- Flight attendant
- The dentist
- Ticket booth
- Restaurant server
- Restaurant chef
- Bicycle repairman
- Maid
- Car salesman
- Cable guy
As a European I feel personally responsible to uphold a system where ultrarich oligarchs can pay workers sub-minimum wages, as is the Dream of all freedom-yearning people on the planet.
Tip wage actually came about as a way to keep small businesses and restaurants alive in economies that could not otherwise support them. It has since been abused by large chains and businesses as a way to lower overhead in the business. Tipping is often waived in small communities where everyone knows everyone and is only expected of outsiders who dont otherwise contribute to the community.
In that vein, the only people you need to worry about tipping is service personnel. You wouldn’t necessarily tip a gas station clerk unless they pumped your gas, which is still a thing in some states.
For a culture that globalized the service industry, you’d think you would all be more familiar with expressing your gratitude. I guess its hard to do when you’ve spent the last few centuries owning the help instead of thanking them.
Wait what, expressing my gratitude for a culture that globalized the service industry? I genuinely have no idea what that means. Am I to understand that the United States invented the service economy that Europe then adopted?
American tipping culture is a racist holdover and has nothing to do with supporting small businesses.
https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage-cbsn-originals-documentary/
They do expect tips at grocerie store just in a form of goverment taxes at checkout.
Thats one of the dumbest things I’ve heard all year. You think sales tax is a tip for grocery store employees?
Fuck that. I never tip for pick up. I came to you. There was no service to tip for. Just do your job. I’ll tip for delivery when I do rarely get that. I also don’t tip when I’m standing up to order.
It’s pretty simple, the tip is for the service, not just an automatic add on for anybody doing their job.
Do you tip the cashier at the grocery store? And the bagger that bagged your food? What about the cart return guy that has to fetch your cart from the 2 parking spaces you left it taking up?
I would strongly recommend to travel a bit outside of the USA.
In school they told me it was 15%
Isn’t it 25% these days? Frequently I see the lowest option on the terminal as 25% and need to enter a custom amount to make it any less.
Fuck no please don’t start these rumours. I know of no one who tips 25% unless the service was exquisite.
Not unless youre tipping a stripper at a coffee shack.
10% to go. 20% dine in. Always has been. People bickering about 15% or 18% are penny pinchers and should be shamed as such.
When I grew up in the 90s it was 15% to dine in.
When did it turn into 20% exactly?
Started creeping up in the mid 2000s I think. Before that people generally said 15%
20% has been the standard for dining in as far as I can temember
It started during the pandemic with an excuse that it was to support the staff.
FFS, it’s called a price for a reason.
If it were up to me I would turn the fucker around. Maximum listed on the menu, and if the customer behaved like an actual human being instead of an entitled prick, their final bill would be reduced by up to 20%.
Don’t worry American citizens are also confused by the expensive tipping culture in the US. I still maintain 15% for a good job, 10% for a mediocre job, 5% for anything below. Giving above 15% is just subsidizing the pay the employer should be giving. It’s a symptom of the fact that wages have stagnated for over 50 years. The pay that once supported someone and even a child is now far below the poverty line for even an individual. So instead of increasing pay to match what it once was many businesses have turned to aggressive tipping over just increasing the prices of their service / products.
15% for a good job, 10% for a mediocre job, 5% for anything below
I maybe make a 10% bonus if my department absolutely smashes sales numbers… i cant imagine getting 15% for doing my job normally (i consider doing a “good job” to be my normal output) or even getting 5% for doing “below” mediocre…
In fact, in most jobs, doing below mediocre work usually gets you fired, not bonuses
Yes, I’m aware. Workers in certain restaurants make quite a lot, even more than some engineers with degrees I know.
But also, i dont want to make this about “X type worker shouldnt make more than Y type worker”… servers should be paid whatever they get paid. Just dont put the burden on the customer… i dont care if they make more than me, or my CEO or whatever… just dont hassle me with the tipping decision.
a lot of that kind of “servers make more than X” discourse ends up belittling one worker with “unskilled labour” terminology. I dont believe in anything called unskilled labour.
Me as someone not from the US: why would you pay even 10% for anything below exceptional let alone a mediocre job? I am not going öt subsidise their employer.
Irl, culture. 15% is becoming an insult but is still normal or acceptable most places. If you ever want to return to a restaurant and not have your food tampered with its best to keep with some agreeable norm. At 10% I wouldn’t suggest being a frequent visitor anywhere for your health and wellbeing. To zoom out a little, there’s been no country I have lived in where the culture was 100% agreeable even to the majority. We’re all policed in some way or another by it.
Crazy culture if my options are pay extra or be poisoned.
As someone who’s worked in a restaurant, they probably wouldn’t fuck with your food. You might end up waiting a while for drinks, though.
If you piss off food staff anywhere on earth your food may be tampered with. Now what people consider to be rude can be unique in different places.
I tip generously at my local bar and in return they sometimes give me free stuff. Got a whole sandwich recently.
Employers are giving you the option of cheating the employee and you are taking them up on it, claiming to be fighting the system, by cheating the employee.
Think about that, just because millions of cheating self interested half wits and tools and jerks agree with you, doesn’t mean you are right. You are cheating working people under a false pretense. If you don’t like tipping that much, don’t patronize establishments that use it.
It’s legal ransom, you’re mad at the wrong person
You’re entitled to a sit down restaurant or it’s “legal ransom”??
Pot calling kettle black.
The federal and state governments are cheating staff by allowing employers to pay slave-level wages of $2.xx/hr, if staff are paid ~$5/hr or more through tips.
This has gone on for a while so you’re right, maybe I shouldn’t visit some states in the USA anymore even after Don the Con is gone.
Maybe you shouldn’t if you’re going to cry about our culture (that gives young single women/moms a damn good paying job for little skill and time). Yea we don’t need more entitled trash in this country.
There is a world in which you don’t have to sacrifice restaurant jobs while still having a proper minimum wage and having some level of tip culture. I live there, it’s called Canada. Servers, cooks and cleaners can make good money from tips while still being paid at the very least $15Cdn/hr ($10.60 US) by the restauranteur, higher outside the Prairies. Tipped minimum wage exists in Quebec but it is $13.30Cdn/hr ($9.35 US). It doesn’t have to be a one or the other situation, you can call it entitlement, but I call replacing wages with tips shifting the blame.
I mostly decrease eating out which is arguably worse because now they get a 0% tip. If enough people avoid establishments that abuse tipping then the problem will solve itself.
But they don’t have to work for you for free if you don’t go, and you’re not actually subsidizing the restaurant if you’re not paying the menu price.
It’s for sure worse for the worker if you go, pay for your meal, and don’t tip them. The owner doesn’t care, he got his, and if the worker (who gets 0% in either scenario) quits another just takes their place tomorrow.
Maybe on an individual level but if no one goes there won’t be a restaurant or that job for long. Getting something is typically better than getting nothing.
Not as a server. No it’s not.
So getting a 15% tip is worse than getting no business at all?
Depends on the pay structure. Tip outs at some places get high, maybe even 10% of total sales. Which would mean 2/3 of your generous 15% tip goes to the kitchen, or the busboy, or whoever, regardless of how much your server had to harangue them into doing their jobs or how much verbal abuse everyone had to endure in the process. Which, as a former server, yes, is part of the job.
If you tip 5% at a place that tips out higher than 5%, guess where the difference comes from. If you guessed the server’s own share of the tip pool, you get a cookie. Sometimes, nothing is in fact better than something.
So why don’t they just get another job? It’s fuckin hard out there, man, maybe they’re trying. You don’t know. It took yours truly 2 years to escape the industry, and I still have a foot planted there because i took a pay cut to do it. I can almost guarantee I make less money than you if you can afford to eat out more than, like, once a month.
And don’t even get me started on the servers who do make beaucoup bucks. They don’t get there on their own, they do it by shirking their side duties, taking a bigger slice of the pie, and “delegating” to their peers, which management loves because it’s “team service.” Granted, the restaurant I worked at was a shitty place to work, but that’s not exactly rare.
So what does this all point to? Tipping sucks, but trying to fight it by tipping less really only hurts the face you see.
Sure but “getting something” implies you’re tipping, I’m talking about people who still go and do not tip.
If you tip, then yeah, that is indeed better for the server. What’s better for the server overall is getting to the point where you can escape the industry but of course it has its ways of keeping you locked in (and not all of them are “tips or the lack thereof”), but in the short term:
Tip and work>no tip no work>no tip but still work
It’s like you didn’t read my comments at all. I never said anything about not tipping at all outside of the circumstance where I never went to the restaurant to begin with. If I don’t go then the owner gets $0 and the server gets $0 since I didn’t use their service or purchase their product aka they both get 0%.
The scenario you’re bringing up really has nothing to do with anything I’ve said this entire time.
Ok, I’ll run it back for you. Give me a minute to edit this all together, I’m on mobile.
You said:
I mostly decrease eating out which is arguably worse because now they get a 0% tip. If enough people avoid establishments that abuse tipping then the problem will solve itself.
To which I replied:
But they don’t have to work for you for free of you don’t go
As in while you’re giving them 0% tip, you’re also giving them 0% work to do, by not going to the establishment.
The problem is those who give them 0% tip and 100% work to do.
Much better for them to work for free to serve you without pay? GTFO.
I tip what was once normal or even generous a few years ago and generally avoid places that push this behavior so the business owner and the employees get nothing from me. Mostly though if I eat out it’s at places where tipping isn’t customary.
You tip 20% of the bill, or less if you are an asshole. What’s so hard to understand?
Don’t get pissed off at me, get pissed off at the asshole who won’t pay you and expects ME to.
It’s kinda insane to me how successful tip propaganda is. 20%??
My whole life, 15% was considered a top tier tip. Prices have gone up on everything across the board, but tips are a percentage meaning 15% is still more money than it was twenty years ago, so why in the fuck has it gone from 15% for a great tip to 20% as a minimum?? So not only are prices higher, you want a higher cut of that higher price?? Insane.
It’s been creeping up too, 20% is now the offered minimum but I’ve seen the options go up to 30% at least
Once again 20% was the norm in 2001 when I was doing that job. It has not creeped up. It hasn’t changed in nearly 30 years.
I don’t know what job or where in the country you were, but 20% was never the norm my whole life going back to the 90s.
People are stupid and that’s why it’s done what it has.
I hate when I walk to a counter, order something then the machine is programmed to ask for a tip. Fuck everything about that. Hate hate tipping culture to begin with.
Pay has gone up less than prices. That’s why tip percentage has gone up.
Most people’s haven’t; why am I further subsidizing the restaurant’s payroll??
Because you’re choosing to go to restaurants that use the tipping model. Choose to go to ones that do not, EZPZ.
BUT IM ENTITLED TO SOMEONE SERVING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! You’re wanting me to go to an establishment of poors!
They’re all from places where the price on the menu is the final price.
But in case you’re thinking “you have to adapt to the culture,” Americans are still notorious for standing out as tourists and not adapting.
Americans are still notorious for standing out as tourists and not adapting.
And are rightfully called out for it all the time, just like this. Welcome to the club!
Yes, we are.
Are you all saying you can dish it but can’t take it?
We aren’t just going to get shit on by you people and not call you out for the same behavior. Why the fuck are you people so entitled? Is it the culture where you’re all from?
Is it the culture where you’re all from?
Yes. Europeans have been shitting on each other for centuries. Welcome to the fun.
No one asked them to go there, and it is all known and written in so many subs what the US tipping culture is about. Own fault. They should stop behave like 5 year old.
Exactly. Fuck FIFA, fuck USA. Stop giving money to these fuckers.
Finally, a good answer. Pass it on.
Blame the victim. Nice…
You Europeans think you’re a victim because you need to tip now?
Being unaware of local customs isn’t a good reason to complain about them. Just learn them. If you travel without taking five minutes to understand the local culture, don’t be surprised when you run into unpleasant surprises.
Not hard to understand, innit?
It’s not, but it’s a problem of “unknown unknowns”. People look up mandatory vaccines, which health insurances actually cover them there, which part of town to avoid etc. Not “am I randomly expected to give money to people?”.
So, the phrase “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” seems to be unknown to the younger generation. That doesn’t surprise me.
