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“If AI was banned right now, would you be able to go on without it?”
Yes. I do this everyday.
I really have to try but same. Not because I like AI though, it’s just genuinely hard to use tech now adays without stumbling into something using AI.
Is that a trick question? Only imposters and truly inept people cannot live without AI support. The rest of us use their knowledge and experience to do our work, like we did in the years before this “Gift for the terminally inept” came about.
This is responding to a different post about how an AI bro acting smug of like “You hate AI so much? Try going through a day without Claude”
Found the post this comic is making fun of: https://lemmy.world/post/50401646
@schroedingersKoala the propaganda has even tricked some smart people I know. Its insane. If youre not constantly vigilant against it you can get sucked in. And most people have no idea theyre part of the grift.
Been getting along just fine without thank you very much.
Another senior software dev here with nearly 20 years experience. I have never needed or used these tools. Cuz fuckem, that’s why.
Reviewing large AI PRs is the worst. I think being verbose is a good thing through function and variable naming, and comments for head scratching bits of cose, but AI can take it to an extreme degree with comments everywhere. Reading and critequing/discussing code and patterns used to be one of my favorite parts of the job.
My coworker who’s fully in bed with AI barely understood the code he wrote before, but asking him a question now is just an indirect means of using Claude. It has gotten to the point where I’m writing my PR comments more in the style of a prompt because it’s obvious he just pastes them in to Claude anyway.
One thing worse than AI PRs is AI bug reports.
One is a user that experiences a symptom that could be described in a quick copy/paste with maybe a sentence. Instead they have “AI” dig in and generate a dissertation on what it thinks is the issue and the original issue is lost in the AI diagnosis. Since the user doesn’t even have it wired up to actually test the hypothosis, it is just the AI first guess, which is frequently wrong. Wasting my time and failing to provide data.
The other is someone letting AI run over code and report “bugs” as in “it disagreed on some detail in the code, even though no person has actually experienced misbehavior, nor is the particular issue a security issue, but it might be an issue that some person one day eventually might hit”.
But I totally feel the coworker that had questionable code before that is now just utterly hopeless thanks to AI. I have nothing to do with his project but occasionally got called in to figure out and explain why his code would flip out. It hasn’t passed test in over a month as it’s now eternally buggy. Any attempt he makes to fix bugs inevitably lands with more bugs. But it’s too far now, he can’t turn back (CodeGen rewrote his codebase in a language he can’t follow, so he can’t hand edit, and he’s too afraid to roll back to when he almost understood his code). Hilarious one time within a week where he reported he could work on his project no more because he had exhausted his tokens, and without the tokens he can’t do anything anymore. Framed this as a failure of management to fund his needs adequately.
I have been shocked at just how many people, people long in the business seem to actively hate writing code. How much additional work they are willing to go through to claim victory in development through prose. Spending hours trying to get CodeGen to fix a trivial CSS issue in a web page that would have taken less than a minute if they just hit f12 and looked at the offending element. I can’t fathom how they could stand their careers for sometimes two decades before CodeGen came available if they hated it just so much.
Most developers reported AI made their productivity worse.
Out of the few that said AI made their productivity better, most of them couldn’t code.
Out of the few that said AI made their productivity better, most of them couldn’t code.
Note this point makes business leaders so excited. They hear “cheap labor can be productive”. Missing the point that the output is supremely dubious. They are “productive” because they don’t even know if the result is good or not, and so they can accept what is handed to them.
Currently, have a feature I thought we should have done, but management said one of the sales reps vibed up the answer, so we don’t need to do it. I used it and pointed out that the result was actually incorrect, but management thinks I’m just some luddite because they can’t understand the nature of the problems either.
Took me quite a few years to realize: when looking at usefulness of AI, I think in terms of “does it help me do my work better”. A lot of other people only think of “does it help to spew out more <whatever. lines of code? bug fixes? releases?>”
I love shit like this.
Like. I work for a landscaping company. There is zero application of AI/LLMs/whatever to any aspect of my work. None of that shit is going to help me move piles of dirt, or plant saplings.
This message doesn’t really land well at all in the way this comic is made. Another post does a much better job of undermining the comment by comparing to a meth addict.
This is partly what’s been said in this thread (from my skimming of the top 10 comments) but also because a lot of people are so fucking dumb that AI has been like Neo in the Matrix for them. They are so dumb that using basic words to search and filtering through the results seems like black magic. Now they feel empowered and smart. It’s extremely fucking scary.
I only read the top 10 comments because I have taken my sleep medication and it’s starting to win the fight ATM. Just needed to get this out before it was too late.
Sleep tight!
It does feel fixating on this guys stupid comment is typical “find the stupidest person who holds a view you disagree with an pile on them and parade it as supposedly representative”. In discourse isn’t the strongest move to discredit the best arguments you disagree with rather than the worst?
Though he is a dick so who cares.
It is not far off the normal argument you see that somehow a chatbot is a revolutionary advancement to every facet of society. Even though, when pressed, all they can come up with is the nearly totally unrelated programs doing work on massive datasets in science and medicine or that it can almost write working isolated code in some languages.
I don’t use any of it now, so…it’d be pretty easy, actually.
As someone who has made the occasional funny picture with the bingalator, how do you get to the point that you can not exist a day without some gen ai? Like how?
LLMs are explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion spinsters, which is why all the logos for ‘AI’ companies are variations of arseholes.
I spent most of yesterday correcting someone’s AI transcribed copy of our surplus sheet because it was so wrong
The only use for machine learning I have is translation software, which was getting pretty good already before the LLM hype. Assuming I’d get that back at the pre-hype levels I’d have zero impact.
I only use it for checking how it would propose to formulate a sentence in French, but then I write my own anyway. Since it would be weird to pretend that was my level of skill towards the customer. Or sometimes I translate back my wobbly French to see if I went really wrong or ran into some false friends (terms that sound similar among the languages but have different meaning).
It’s like consulting the Chess Engine for the engine move to me.
If this software too vanished, then I’d just have to use the online dictionaries even more. And be even slower, but who cares this is only once every few weeks, anyway. Most French speaking Swiss are fine with English in text form too.
As a translator who changed careers because of CAT tools: fuck that shit. Translation agencies have used them to strangle the market. End of my rant.
Maybe don’t ask LLMs for translation help. Apparently because many of them are programmed in English, they still follow English structures when writing in other languages, resulting in products that are grammatically incorrect.
We have gone from reasonably-okay translation programs to “intelligent” systems that are flat-out incorrect. And somehow people believe that the incorrect ones are better.
I look forward to this particular hype train running off the rails sooner rather than later.
Well I haven’t changed the tools I use (DeepL and Google Translate), but I assume they built in LLMs in the back end.
Yes for Google Translate at least. It’s still possible to inject prompts in your “translation”, too. I’ve noticed a considerable drop in accuracy translating to English, too… The English is more natural but “forgets” to include some information in the original text. This stuffs up my old workflow because now I can’t rely on Google translate at least translating all the nouns (e.g. it will drop some names in a list of people)
Ai sucks lol, I rarely use it
Yep, no problem.
I get that people are afraid of change, which some countries do a bad job at protecting people from. That’s a separate (political) issue. I’m personally not a fan of how the U.S. handles such transformations. However, that aside, wouldn’t it be cool if we could do more ambitious things and have better quality of life?
For example, embodied AI will be able to take over household chores. It can already do very basic programming chores (babysit this, wait for that and kick this off if it works or try that if not) that don’t make sense to automate with a shell script.
