• Kissaki@feddit.org
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    11 hours ago

    When will big companies lobby for patent law changes? I guess they still see enough value on the other end, with their own patents and lawsuits.

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    You don’t really have to say “alleged” if they’ve gotten a judgement against them in a court.

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        23 hours ago

        The current patent system greatly benefits the mega corporations. A small company could never make a phone because of the insane patent minefield owned by the mega corps.

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          Yeah they basically set up a mutually assured destruction patent stalemate with the existing big players. Any new entrant gets blown to high hell.

          It looks to me like they’re lobbying to do the same with “AI” right now. They want to set up some stupid protectionist racket where it’ll be as impossible to use a cheap chatbot as it is to buy a cheap EV in the states.

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      23 hours ago

      Taction actually invented and sell this technology though, they aren’t just squatting on IP they bought. Not every patent lawsuit was filed by a troll.

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          The idea was giving inventor time to recoup their inventing costs and earn a wage, before copy cats swamped the market. The patent length is too long nowadays

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          The original justification for patents at least had some logic to it. In exchange for progressing the state of the art and telling everyone else how your new invention works you get a period of market exclusivity. There was/is the option to not patent ideas and keep them as trade secrets instead, at the risk of others figuring out your idea.

          Unfortunately for all of us 20 years is a really long time for exclusivity at our current tech development pace and in no way are patents consumable information for laypeople. The nonsense filings that get granted and all the lawyers involved have turned it into yet another tool only available to the wealthy.

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      Before the Taction lawsuit, Apple was previously hit with another patent infringement lawsuit from Immersion. The company filed a complaint against Apple, also accusing it of patent violations with haptic tech found in iPhones, Apple Watches and MacBooks, but eventually settled for an undisclosed amount. More notably, Apple is in the midst of another patent infringement battle surrounding its Apple Watch and a feature that tracks blood-oxygen levels. In November, another federal jury ruled that Apple has to pay $634 million for violation patents from Masimo, but the tech giant is similarly planning to appeal this jury verdict.

      Seems like a pattern here. Fuck Apple

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        1 day ago

        Well patenttrolling ist a thing that is pretty common nowadays so as a big distributer you will have a lot of these lawsuits

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      According to Bloomberg Law, Apple didn’t agree with the jury’s decision nor the damages and would appeal the verdict.

      It’s alleged until the appeals stop, then it’s the final verdict

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        It’s generally accepted that a jury verdict is final at the moment it’s accepted by the trial court. So no “alleged” is needed. It’s not technically wrong to use it as a descriptive choice, since it’s now both factually established and still alleged, but it’s misleadingly tentative and not required.

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        It’s alleged until the appeals stop, then it’s the final verdict

        It’s only alleged until the verdict drops. Whether or not they appeal, they are currently found guilty of the crime, ergo, not “alleged”.

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        The same can be said about any crime though, right? If you’re found guilty of murder, they drop the alleged and you’re just a murder. If you successfully appeal, then the title is dropped.

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          I believe the issue comes down to not needing to later retract things to change the statement, like yeah I know Apple was convicted of this and currently is “convicted” but if they appeal and win and in 5 years the article says “Apple convicted of X, must pay Y” you’d necessarily need a follow up article to correct it OR a retraction or whatever later.

          Anyways. I bet that’s the reason, even if I agree that what you said should be the way it’s reported as it is currently the most accurate

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            So just more gutless journalism focused on appeasing corporate interest rather than reporting the truth? Shocking

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                I mean it’s exactly what you’ve said. They hem and haw and refuse to report news that could warrant a future retraction—which, by the way, is a stupid take, as news is temporal and current and what they’re reporting currently is in the interest of some unknown future verdict rather than the one before us now. So, given that they choose to report whatever is most favorable for future corporate interest despite damning current events, I have to conclude that it’s because journalists are prevented from doing their actual jobs by media conglomerates who will always side with capital. How does that twist your words exactly?

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                  You infer malice, by twisting my words, which I’m not doing.

                  Sometimes bad things happen for reasons that aren’t malicious, understanding that will help.

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    The Reuters article has this, which is interesting…

    “Apple’s Taptic Engine is ​fundamentally different from Taction’s technology, which Taction’s own testing of Apple’s products confirmed during trial,” Apple ​said in response

    But im not seeing lots of details on easy searches. You’re usually allowed to do something a different way though?

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      From their last quarterly earnings report:

      The Company posted quarterly revenue of $109.4 billion, up 16 percent year over year. Company gross margin was 50.1 percent

      So the fine is less than a week of revenue.

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    Let’s be real , this is apple that we are speaking about… The won’t add a fckin fingerprint scanner on you phone along side the face unlock, will shove through your throats the bugged Vibecoded slop of an os that ios liquid glass is with an eternity of bugs and also the Latest Mac OS Golden Gate, WIL NOT allow you to side load apps or even install one unless they are pain, Will take a fortune of your wallets to even give u a developer certification for the IOS softwares and MOST funny thing of ALL , WILL skip any major updates on hardware let alone their sloppy software after an entire goddarm years wait instead wasting time and revenue over some trivial sht as this patent.

    The entire idea of this closed source nature needs to be overcome, don’t think I am some android fan guy as i criticize their latest acts as well , they are following apple as well in their footsteps… At this point…the only thing which I loved the most important thing of Apple, ecosystem integration along with fine tuned software seems to be vanishing…WHY would someone even consider them now? Reason: no one else comes close to them yet … despite all these factors nothing comes close to them…MacOS bs linux isn’t a question yet … because sadly again arm systems of Linux are vastly in development…and their is no perfect widescale foss alternative to ios yet…

    But one day we will outgrow them …WE WILL