Like the type to unironically think Freemasons are the top dogs that control every faucet of society and every other sinister organization bows down to them. The ones who think they’re very smart and woke by saying some shit like “the media is trying to divide us…” They’ll see some socialist quote warning about bourgeois domination of the world and agree with it, but then have zero interest in actually internalizing the material reality. It’s like their entire brain is just based on random quotes and simpsons clips with red circles.

It is so intellectually lazy that I get whiplash every time I see them in the wild because I forget people like this exist. At least with right wing nut job conspiracies will have convictions whether they’re racist or antisemitic or just projection about pedophilia. Centrist conspiracy theorists’ just post some vague “I told you so” in the comments of YouTube and Facebook.

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      That is pretty true though. Actually what is the consensus on 9/11 for hexbear? Because I really don’t see a reason to believe the US and Saudi Arabia didn’t do it. I’ve seen some people claim it’s genuine blowback and in all honesty I’ve never heard a convincing argument as to why.

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        idk what the consensus is and can only speak for myself, but I’m convinced it was the US, with some level of collaberation with Israel, Saudis, Pakistan, UK, or factions therein. False flags are the US’s go-to for starting wars - its difficult to get a good casus beli like a border dispute when you’re miles away from everyone on a separate landmass.

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          Exactly. Like people need to remember 2001. You’re talking about the US being the uncontested superpower of the planet. No other time in human history has there ever been a nation with that much influence over the globe. How else was the GWOT supposed to kick off other than the US terrorizing itself?

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            whenever i think about it, I picture some crazy drunk guy screaming and slashing himself with a knife then running at people in a crowd of horrified onlookers, theres something really primitive about it, despite the cold calculation involved. But then when has the US cared about its own people, or anyone really, except as a means to an end.