So I’ve been putting off writing this for a long time and it’ll probably need to be a series, but I’ve had a difficult time answering challenges from my friends who assert that China is either a Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie or of the Bureaucracy (i.e. state capitalists), and that it’s a competing imperialist power along with America (and they also say Russia but I can answer that one being stupid on my own).

The problem with China Discourse is that there is a serious paucity of sources dealing with nuanced critiques rather than just “debt trap!” bullshit or whatever, since the objections of liberals and the objections of smarter ultras are very different. At the very least, the sources dealing with this Discourse are less accessible to me.

But now I’m extremely bored and also recently saw Comrade Queermmunist’s excellent rebuttal against the claim of China doing imperialism in the DRC, which gave me some hope that Hexbear would be able to answer some of these claims with something at least plausible.

The main objects of concern are the for-profit national businesses causing bureacratic class antagonism, foreign policy in the form of UN peacekeeping contributions, and straightforward imperialism at the base of its supply chain, along with miscellany like this:

https://newworker.us/international/chinas-stock-market-a-lesson-on-what-socialism-is-not/

I don’t know, it’s all a mess and putting off ideological work causes problems. If nothing else, let this be a practical lesson to you:

To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.

It catches up with you and makes things worse in the end.

  • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    10 months ago

    It’s totally plausible that there are things about China that could be improved

    you don’t even have to couch it that much, they have billionares and could’ve done some lib shit tax bracketing to prevent that without going anywhere near the communism button.

    but it’s wild to me that a bunch of people that don’t know the language and can’t take a city council in their own country think they’re the ones to do it.

    i don’t think that’s what’s going on when somebody points out an obvious shortcoming any more than a guy yelling at his tv thinks he’ll change how a team plays. The bigger brainworms problem with these people is that they’ll suck down all the propaganda of emphasis and act like chinese boomers having boomer attitudes about queer people is some unique problem with china and ignore how awful things are getting in the west just because we have marriage rights (for now).