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☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 1 year ago

General Discussion Thread - Juche 113, Week 12

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General Discussion Thread - Juche 113, Week 12

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☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 1 year ago
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Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself@home. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.

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● Find theory on ProleWiki, marxists.org, Anna’s Archive and libgen; audio versions by Socialism For All

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    I hate how Ukrainian nationalists claim that communism was forced on them by the Russians, even though Ukrainians were just as much part of the Soviet Union as the Russians. Ukrainians built up the Soviet Union as well, but to them it’s all Russian imperialism. Seems very insulting to their own countrymen to be honest. Do they forget Brezhnev was from Ukraine?

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      The ukranian nationalists were the reactionary forces of the region, you can bet they have their origins on aristocracy and the early bourgeoisie, so of course they claim they got wronged.

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      Khrushchev and Chernenko too. And depending on how you see it, Trotsky too.

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    I had a dream last night where I made a post here about how showers were authoritarian without elaborating any further and it got so unpopular that it had 120+ dislikes and I almost got banned.

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      Okay hear me out, shaming people for showering less is ableist and poverty/houseless shaming, not everyone is able to shower consistently and like most people who don’t shower very often would want to have the ability to shower more, like there’s obviously depression and if you live with conditions where you can only have enough to drink any drop of water after that will be split on cleaning yourself and your clothes and you can’t do only of those or you’ll still smell bad anyway.

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        and if you live with conditions where you can only have enough to drink any drop of water after that will be split on cleaning yourself and your clothes and you can’t do only of those or you’ll still smell bad anyway.

        Shower with your clothes on. Bonus points if you piss in the shower too. It saves water! #SaveTheTurtles #Kony2012

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            Isn’t this pretty common? When traveling, backpacking, homeless, or without general access to a washing machine; isn’t it fairly common for people to dump their clothes in a bathtub with some detergent and then scrub and mix them around?

            That’s what I always did at least. Does the same thing as a machine just a lot more tiring.

            Good to hear you’re no longer in that situation though.

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          LMAO this reminded me of one episode of that tv show about extremely cheap people, dude showered with clothes on so they get clean and only flushed his toilet once a week.

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            Guess they were trying to save money.

            You know, cost-of-living crisis and everything…

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          Good ideas, keep 'em coming.

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        I’m Autistic so I ultimately gravitate toward this opinion.

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      Household bathrooms are bourgeois and cause alienation. Under communism, we shall all visit the communal baths to build solidarity.

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        Reminds me of a line in a Soviet comedy (Irony of Fate, or Enjoy Your Bath), where the main character, a kind of goofy middle-aged dude who’s somehow made it through medical school, goes with his friends to a sauna on New Year’s Eve. One of them gets drunk on vodka he’s smuggled in and starts pontificating about how private bathrooms are destroying civilization. “At home, this beautiful ritual becomes – a mere washing off of dirt.”

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          I wonder how much of that is satire and how much is honesty because I remember reading somewhere about how a lot of people resented the shift away from social bathing.

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            I wouldn’t want to do it – not really a thing in American culture – but I can see the appeal. Sitting and talking with your friends, maybe having a beer, feeling cleansed in body and spirit.

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              Funny enough, nude swimming used to be a thing in America which is low-key the same thing. It was something boys had to do for school and would also do in rivers and stuff. Girls had to wear swimsuits though

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        Is this where the 1 toothbrush for the county will be stored or will it be in its own tooth brushing building

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          Everyone will have to pass around one of those little rubber dog toothbrushes. Failure to maintain dental hygiene will result in a ban on socialist fraternal kisses

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        I don’t wanna.

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      Are you stinky?

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        No.

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      …What are you, an anarchist?!

      Mods, ban this user!

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    Bit idea: horiffic dystopian imperialist army but they’re cutting corners everywhere, like instead of having prosthetic super soldiers they just cut their feet and replace them with wooden pegs

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      Imperial Guard and Navy in warhammer 40k do that sometimes. Higher ups and nobles may get proper bionics, but rank and file? Shit outta luck

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        Also happens in Starship Troopers. All the veterans are missing limbs and are confined to wheelchairs, crutches, arm slings; as prosthetics are all but unheard of because they are perversely proud and happy to have gotten their disfigurements and disabilities.

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          Yeah. Class is still a thing.

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          I think you should replace whichever comma is between “are confined to” and “are all but unheard of” with a full stop (or maybe semicolon?)

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            Good idea.

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        Star Wars also has physically disabled people that can’t afford prosthetics or upgrades.

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      Sounds like real life, tbh.

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        That’s because we do live in a dystopian post-apocalyptic cyberpunk future. Those pretty neon and rain pictures you’ve seen in cyberpunk themed media? That was advertising, same as pictures of USian suburbs in the 50’s

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          Yeah, but USian suburbs are still a thing and they stink…

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            Exactly. They aren’t the neat little houses with white picket fences and smiling neighbours. That’s just the advertising - like in Back to the Future

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              Yeah, trust me, I live in one lol

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    It’s 9th March, 62nd anniversary of Algerian ceasefire day, I knew that because there’s flags everywhere today, can’t stop thinking of Gaza.

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      “It’s [future date], 62nd anniversary of Palestinian liberation. I knew that because there’s flags everywhere today, can’t stop thinking about the fall of Western imperialisme.” - some day in the future

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        "It’s [future date], 62nd anniversary of the fall of Western imperialisme. I knew that because there’s flags everywhere today, can’t stop thinking about global communism.’ - some day in the future future

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          “It’s [future date], 62nd anniversary of the establishment of Global communism, I knew that because there’s red flags everywhere today, can’t stop thinking about automated space communism”- some day future future future

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          The far future…

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            2035 isn’t that far away.

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              God, you’re right.

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        Yes!

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      Are you Algerian?

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        Perhaps

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          It shows up as DZ on some browsers, why is DZ the shorthand for Algeria?

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            Locally we call the country “Dzair” from the Zirid dynasty

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    I hope you all have a nice week :D

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      You never miss the opportunity do you?

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        Haha

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          A bit phoney but ok

          • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlOPM
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            excellent pun

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              What is this, One Piece 4kids version?

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            How many “ha” would you need for me to correctly show you my appreciation for your excellent pun?

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              I had 2 puns

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                Oh I just got it.
                I want you to know I think you are an amazing person and value you

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                  Under capitalism, things are devalued so that counts for little.

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                Rule of Two

                No more, no less.

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              the plural “ha”

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            icwutudidthar

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          Say “Haha” backwards now.

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            ahaH

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              Same difference in the end.

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        If you had one chance… One opportunity…

        Would you catch it?

        Or just… let it slip?

    • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlOPM
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      you too
      give my regards to the other Chinese phone manufacturers

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        Capybara The other chinese phone manufacturers and I are not on speaking terms

        • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlOPM
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            What a thrill…

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          OOF

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        I literally have a Huawei.

        It’s the wei.

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      You too :D

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        shark 2

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          Im #2

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            But what am I?

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              Whatever you want to be 🥰🥰🥰

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                No, Makan.

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              Me.

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            I am Four

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          Sharknado

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        Me three

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      stalin heart hands

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        cat

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          Very good

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            Just like you.

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          kat

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        We have emojis? Like in Hexbear?!

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          yes stalin chad

          deng stare this is fine lenin shotgun capitalist coping care xi pointing at the screen zoidberg saluting 1 megamind please whataboutism fed

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            But no Denguin.

            Please include the Denguin. @[email protected]

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      It’s Oppo Rancissis!

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    “Give nuclear weapons to Ukraine. I’m saying that as a leftist.” -Slavoj “The Jester of the Empire” Zizek

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      Ukraine already gave its nuclear weapons away.

      Guess it doesn’t want them anymore!

      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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        Ukraine never had nuclear weapons. USSR did. USSR was dismantled and soviet nuclear weapons were moved from the now “independent” Ukraine to the state that was named USSR’s successor in terms of international agreements - Russian Federation.

        I understand this may sound like nitpicking, but it is important to keep the distinction in mind when parsing bourgeoisie propaganda

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          Oh, fair! No, that’s fine.

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    i crack laughing each time i see the Engels quote about authority “have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution??” Its so funny

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      You know he was completely fed up with them when he wrote that

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        Tillykke med kagedagen, kammerat!

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          Mange tak!

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            Det var så lidt

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    Do you guys wonder if they allowed Navalny to run against Putin, and Putin got 55% of the vote while Navalny got 45% of the vote; would liberals still laugh, cope, and seethe at the “rigged Russian elections”? Despite that being identical to how western elections look?

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      He rigged it and made it seem like it was equal to make it seem like he didn’t rig it

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        Literally 1984

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        Entirely different thing/context. What’s wrong with your PFP?

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          the site crashed last year and it made my account weird, like I can’t change my username and stuff

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      Yes.

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      Yes. So would our homegrown libs. In fact I would imagine the internet to become unusable (more so than currently) for months afterwards

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    I’m watching a Dutch show about people buying a house without looking at it first and the current people participating is a gay couple and a woman who have a child. They are one family. Talk about breaking taboos!

    Anyway, my native flower steeds I planted outside my window are starting to sprout 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

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    Rwanda with the support of the west is backing terrorists that have caused the displacement of tens of thousands of people from the Congo, this is not getting covered in media…

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    Apparently comrade Yogthos got banned from [email protected]. Couldn’t handle the facts, I suppose

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      They hated him because he spoke the truth

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      We can show our support for lifting the ban here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4037388

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      Apparently the ban was a mistake, was from an instance admin of lemmy.ml, not a community moderator. They called it “fat-fingered” and lifted the ban

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        Justice prevailed

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    How’s everything going comrades? I’m feeling good for the first time in a while.

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      I’m feeling physically bad for the first time in a while (but mentally good):

      Click here for the gist of it.

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        Sorry to hear it comrade, hope it gets better.

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          Today? It has! :D

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      Pretty okay. The weather is getting nicer and sunnier. I had a party this weekend at which I had some long talks with people about money and the general purpose of life and work.

      I’m thinking about working towards a long trip next year. Maybe I’ll sell all my stuff even. I would love to hike to Santiago in Spain from my house which will take several months. It’s a thought that keeps me going.

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    The news in Belgium today for some reason started a live blog on Ukraine again. The headline said, in big letters: PUTINS WANTS TO DECLARE WAR ON NATO.

    Needless to say it scared the shit out of me. Here I was thinking Russia may actually do it because of the way it was phrased. But it turns out it was just a US think tank that said it.

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    What news sources do you all use for non-imperialist core daily updates?

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      The Convergence Magazine

      People’s Dispatch

      People’s World

      Liberation News

      CGTN

      Fight Back News

      Morning Star

      The Real News Network

      Counterview

      Geopolitical Economy Report

      Global Times

      Prensa Latina

      TeleSUR English

      Frontline News

      The Nation

      In These Times

      Novara Media

      Common Dreams

      Canary

      Truthout

      Monthly Review

      MR Online

      Portside

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        Also, use an RSS feed or Feedly to keep up with 'em. @[email protected]

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          Miniflux for self hosters and Read You on Android are great apps for rss

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    Took my cat to the vet just now. She had dental issues, so we went to get it checked with a dentist. Dentist said it’s tooth resorption and can’t be cured, so she needs surgery. Which will require sedation. And since she’s overweight, sedation will mean intubation, because she wouldn’t be able to breathe otherwise. Wish her luck.

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      Good luck comrade cat, you can do it

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      Good luck

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      Good luck 🫡🫡🫡

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      good luck cat

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      good luck ❤️

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      I hope the surgery went well, wishing you and kiska the best of luck!

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