An old post from Caroline Ellison’s tumblr, since deleted.

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    EA is not a religion. Anyway, here are some pros / cons to marrying outside the religion.

    …the less committed end of the EA spectrum (do you sneak dairy products when no one’s looking? fantasize about owning a yacht?)

    But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a yacht to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

  • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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    This starts out 100% indistinguishable from an April Fools post to the point where I had to check the archive date.

    Actually looking back is maybe is satire in that annoying half-serious way (check out the nonsense hyperlinks destinations where the “humor” is a bit more obvious)

    Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.

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      This definitely reads like the tedious “april fools” posts where you can tell they are actually 90% serious but want the cover of a joke.

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      Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.

      For the win!

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      Come on, this is obvious satire, it is basically page from EA talking about 10.000 hours shit and find replacing a few words. Even the notes call it out as satire.

      Of course satire is dumb, as it always is a signal towards the incrowd and a lot of the times backfires spectacularly (see starship troopers the movie (the book does the other thing, it is intended as serious, but the arguments are so bad that you can read it as 'this is the story of a dumb failson who gets more and more taken in by propaganda, as he fails to see (or intentionally fails to see, which is part of the book re the whole hitting Zim in the face thing, which only ‘occurs’ after the guy admits he did it, and not when Zim is walking around with a huge black eye) how he is being manipulated and the system is being used to get rid of people smarter than him by moving them into more dangerous warzones). Anyway back to the movie, intended as a satire of fascist militarism, but now constantly smugly repeated by actual fascists/far right bs mongers). It always amazes me a bit that the Rationalists don’t talk about how dumb it is to use satire more. (vs all their other meta level stuff about how people disagree and discuss things and who should and should not be allowed to speak) I think it is probably because satire can be so fun, and it is intellectually rewarding to get it while people you dislike don’t get it. Sorry, this rant was sponsored by Helldiverse (im leaving that typo in)! Democracy!

      • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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        I mean maybe if their serious beliefs weren’t all so absurd I’d have an easier time distinguishing those from satire absurd beliefs 🤷‍♀️

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          What you don’t think the rokos basilisk or becoming a billionaire to steal from the common people to give to the underpants gnomes is a good idea?

          (I was wondering randomly, SBF tried to pull a ‘but im so ethical, I meant so well’ in his trial, did he actually give money to good causes, or was that still the step after 2:??? of his master plan?)

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            ponzi-money-spending.docx:

            1. A $35 million Bahamas penthouse office including private chef and pharmacist
            2. Celebrity TV ads and the FTX arena
            3. Private jets, real estate, luxury cars, and a yacht
            4. $100 million between both US political parties, other political donations (this story looks wild, haven’t read it yet)
            5. VIP parties to rub shoulders with the rich, famous, and politically connected.
            6. Donations to various EA groups, as well as some guy writing questions for prediction markets
            7. Donations to museums, universities
            8. Unfortunately the $200k donation to Rajalakshmi Children Foundation never went through before FTX had a teensie liquidity issue.
            9. Gifts for his own family (how sweet :)

            Overall the reporting on this is pretty scattered. I didn’t find any one article that covered every knowable donation.

            He certainly wasn’t truly invested in criming for the good of the world (as long as you don’t count ponzi victims as part of the world); because if he was he’d have run a much tighter ship.

            He cultivated an image of scruffy philanthropist uninterested in worldly things, and for some reason the media ate this up. Meanwhile he was making conscious decisions to keep his criminal enterprise going as long as possible so he could keep living a life of nerdy luxury before it all came crashing down.

      • GorillasAreForEating@awful.systemsOP
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        If Caroline Ellison hadn’t been in an actual relationship with a “high net-worth individual” I would have said it was just straightforward satire, but given the context I think she’s using mask of irony to pretend she isn’t revealing her true self.

        Her words may be satirical, but her actions were more like “this but unironically”.

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    Given that Ellison star-witnessed her ex into >200000 hours in the clink, I dread to think of what might happen to the person that marries her

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    acatinulthar reblogged this from nihilsupernum and added:

    I think that this is probably a parody but it honestly sounds like excellent life advice.

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    WTF is an “EA”?

    Didn’t people learn in high school that if you use Initials or an acronym you need to define it after the first use?

    I’m seeing more and more of this sort of sloppy writing with little or no consideration for the reader without intimate knowledge of the writers’ niche wank genre.

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          i would say in that case “sucks to be them” and “their refund is enclosed”

          it’s not a dot less pointless and obnoxious in that context either

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        And I’m right here!

        So a post appears in ‘ALL’ and I click on it. I’m not an aficionado of ‘sneer club’ so I don’t know what it’s about.

        I’ve now gone through to the sidebar and I’m left rather uninformed due to the purposely opaque cliquey in-joke nature of the text there. I mean, those are definitely words, I’ll give you that.

        The link at the top doesn’t help because i don’t have time to parse a whole article when a 10 word summation of the community would do.

        But thanks.

        • self@awful.systemsM
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          The link at the top doesn’t help because i don’t have time to parse a whole article when a 10 word summation of the community would do.

          you sure did have time to write a 150 word micro-essay about why you’re a bannable dickhead though

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            for anyone else who stumbles on our threads from all and is (justifiably) confused: please for the love of fuck lurk before posting a demand that we do labor for you

            if you’ve lurked and searched TESCREAL and Eliezer Yudkowsky and other shit from the sidebar and you still need clarification, maybe posting a shitty rant in the style of someone’s dad about how kids these days don’t stop and explain themselves to their elders in a random thread is the wrong move

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                It’s a lousy bit, because if you’re going to do a goddamn “crocus” joke about hundreds of people being shot at a concert, you should obviously make the pun about Swiss heavy metal legends “Krokus.”

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                  a deeply shitty joke??? observation??? about how a crocus is a flower and therefore how could it be the subject of a terror attack?

                  completely indistinguishable from all the other posts in their history, all of which were made by reading the title of the thread and posting the first garbage that came to mind

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          so in effect you went to some random forum you had never heard of, read one post in it, didn’t click around or anything, and replied “I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON. DO BETTER”

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      I’m going to take a guess and say it’s “effective altruism”. Maybe???