Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? Is it just because of his beef with Stalin and not an actual criticism of his views? Do people really not think a global movement would be superior for the betterment of all people?

Edit: Thank you to everyone who provided context and history, y’all are a wealth of knowledge.

  • Rx_Hawk [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
    11·
    8 months ago

    Your meme makes a good point, but I like to think of it as using pieces from all the Lego sets you currently own to make a super cool one.

    How does it oppose AES? In another thread someone said that is something self-proclaimed Trotskyists do, but is that really something Trotskyism advocates for?

    • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      40·
      8 months ago

      Trotsky himself considered the USSR a “degenerated workers state”, and spent a good amount of his life advocating and working for itts overthrow, notably with the western powers. Trot groups followed this pattern.

      They also hilariously think that lenin’s testament meant that trotsky should’ve become king, not realizing that he lost that crucial vote to Stalin, and communists don’t appoint successors like monarchs.

      That’s why nearly trot groups end up being leader/domination/sex cults.

      You’ll get good answers on the history of trotskyism over on lemmygrad.

      Also watch that video. It’s from a pakistani communist and former trot, who has extensive organizing history with trotskyist parties.

    • WashedAnus [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      28·
      8 months ago

      I think you’re conflating Trotskyism, thought based on the works of Trotsky, with Trots. Regardless of what Trotsky wrote and believed, Trots generally oppose AES and are generally defined by that and bringing up Stalin and Stalinists to bash at every opportunity, even when it doesn’t have anything to do with the topic at hand.

      EDIT: Also I swear to god they fucking read What is to Be Done and come to the conclusion “We gotta start a newspaper in 2024!”