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    Okay, this may paint me in a bad light, but I was fucking 40 before I learned peanuts grew underground. I ain’t Joe Rogan stupid, but dang.

    Nobody around here grew them (that I know of), and I never went anywhere that grew them where I would see them.

    I assumed they were like any legume, growing above ground like peas or green beans.

    But noooooo, they’re ground nuts. Which I thought was a different plant entirely.

    Out of all my damn family on both sides, visiting (and working on) various farms, nobody grew the damn things.

    So, yeah.

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      I’m all for introducing the saying “I’m not Joe Rogan stupid, but…” into the wider world.

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      In plenty of languages peanuts are also called ‘ground nuts’ or ‘earth nuts’

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        Ouch, I had to think about what it’s in my motherlanguage and it’s actually earth nuts (Erdnüsse in German).

        If you had asked me how they grow it would have been a 50/50 if I got it wrong.

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        The english Wikipedia article mentions that it’s sometimes called groundnut in english too.

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        Does this mean it’s valid to make fun of those who don’t know obvious things if they’re 30 or older?

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            It’s literally an observation of the content of the comic. Fuck me, you people are stupid.

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                Stupidity is a cancer in our society. It deserves ridicule and scorn, not niceties. Note, this is different from ignorance. There is nothing to be ignorant about here, just piss poor reading comprehension and disregard of context clues. Shameful.

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              Spitting out yr gum in astonishment five times a day is not rational.

              But ya, wtf.

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          No, because there are error bars on “things”, and “everyone”, and “knows”, and on “by the time they are 30”.

          This means that statistically, following a Bell curve on where people land based on this, there will be some that will be much older, and much younger that have heard of a specific thing to the point of “knowing” it.

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      Yea, hate him or not, he immediately researched his incorrectness. This is not something we should make fun of. Education is how we solve ignorance, even if the topic is nuts.

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        Nah I’ve watched him ask for a claim to be checked, his checker came back saying that it was a true claim when it was total bullshit.

        Dude gets zero credit for half assed - at best - fact checking. Peanuts are not dire, but the dumbass wants to get into life or death real world shit without doing the work. Fuck Rogan.

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      I live in SW Ontario which used to be prime tobacco territory as in teenagers used to work tobacco fields in the 90’s when I was in HS. Both peanuts and tobacco love a loose sandy soil.

      Point being, no one is expected to know how something grows unless they have some knowledge that makes them intimate or they’re a fucking nerd. Lol

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      Joe Rogan’s not stupid, he just had chronic traumatic encephalopathy from some injuries in his early twenties. Also he is an asshole.

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        Well, being as generous as possible, he says things a stupid person would say, with a high frequency. If that’s due to tbi, I feel sorry for him, but he’s still saying a lot of stupid stuff.

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          If someone says stupid stuff all the time, they are stupid. Doesn’t matter if they have an excuse. Especially if the excuse is that they did something stupid that made them stupider.

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          I might be wrong, but I doubt that the TBI left him to be a different person than he was before.

          My physics teacher had a TBI from a kart race accident that left him temporarily paralyzed and he had to relearn how walk and speak. People often assumed he was stupid or incapable because of the way he talked, but he was probably the brightest guy in that school by a long shot.

          His mnemonics were also top notch. An example: Mnemonics are called “Eselsbrücke” in German (it literally translates to donkey bridge). When learning about harmonic motion, he asked us “What is the Latin word for donkey? That’s right: asinus. A * sin(wt)”. Genius.

          Another one that I still use to this day: how to remember what is concave and what is convex? “If a girl has sex, her belly grows convex.”

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            Nah man. TBIs can totally mess with your whole personality, cognitive abilities, everything to do with your brain. Maybe if you only get one traumatic event, it might not have the same consequences, but guys like Rogan and football players are repeatedly bashing their brains leading to Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy.

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            It really does depend on the parts of the brain damaged, and the severity.

            A person can completely shift in behavior post tbi. And it absolutely can cause damage that impairs learning and thinking.

            It’s impossible to give real numbers because the last time I went looking, there wasn’t enough research out there to properly break down the possible outcomes. That being said, I had a decent share of tbi patients over the years. That fact skews things, obviously; if they needed a caregiver, they had a more severe injury in the first place. But personality shifts were common, and functional capability varied greatly, even within the type of injuries that required caregivers after the fact.

            It’s frankly terrifying to run into the patients that are 100% there intellectually and awareness wise, but stuck with limited ability to communicate.

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            That’s an odd route to go for remembering concave and convex considering concave has the word cave in it and makes a cave.

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      Honestly I think the only reason I kinda realized was because we distinguish peanuts from tree nuts - nuts that do grow on trees. The implication thus that peanuts grow at least not in trees.

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      Okay, this may paint me in a bad light, but I was fucking 40 before I learned peanuts grew underground. I ain’t Joe Rogan stupid, but dang.

      I think that’s why dudes are magnetized to Joe. Interesting trivia that at no point does the average person need to think about are brought up and it’s fascinating.

      Unfortunately, Joe also mixes in conspiracy BS. His extreme lack of critical thinking (or thinking with cherry picked data to fit a particular narrative), is why his fans are constantly belittled by people looking in.

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      No one’s criticizing Rogan for not knowing everything. The punchline is how he reacts to new knowledge and how he builds a false narrative to explain it

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    To be fair to the dude, I didn’t know this either until a teacher taught by teaching us about peanuts. How many of us know much about most of the things we eat?

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      What do you eat that you don’t know about? Barring a lot of newer preservatives food is pretty straightforward.

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        It’s one of those “you don’t know what you don’t know” things. I apparently make a lot of assumptions about the things I eat. Some examples of things I was surprised about:

        • coffee beans aren’t beans, they’re closer to cherries
        • how pineapples grow
        • avocados are apparently berries
        • what adult asparagus look like

        And so on. I’m sure there are a ton more, and I’m always excited to find something that really surprises me.

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          Botanical classifications are always crazy. Most nuts are wild too, check out walnuts. How many things we eat that are clones of a specific plant is really curious too. Apples, avocados, citrus, bananas…

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            Yeah, we have a walnut tree by my house and I scratched my head the first time trying to figure out how to make them look like what we get at the store.

            Food in general is often quite different than you expect, especially now that very few people are farmers and most just buy stuff at the grocery store.

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        Name 5 berries without looking up the definition of a berry, or the comic about it that gets posted every so often.

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          Blue berry, raspberry, very berry, Boisen berry, strawberry, power berry, RAW BERRY! ⚡

          The difference being that they’re all berries. A scientific ovary does not a legitimate word or colloquial use make.

          The point being that most people have a pretty good idea about where a food comes from or grows since most generally come from similar areas when you factor in skin, softness, and size beyond just general knowledge.

          Considering the only real difficulty comes from legumes for most people because they can grow in the ground or above ground… It’s a bit disingenuous to start busting people out on fruit vs fruiting body debate.

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            Strawberries, raspberries and boysenberries are not berries. They’re accessory fruit. Very berries and power berries don’t seem to be a thing, unless you’re translating them from another language incorrectly into English. You listed exactly one berry, the blueberry, proving their point that most people actually don’t know much about their food. “Colloquial use” has nothing to do with people knowing actual facts about their food, which was the matter under discussion. Further, (anecdotally because I’m at work and can’t be arsed to look it up at the moment though the studies have been done) a lot of people have no idea what kind of plant many of these things even grow on, whether tree, bush, vine, etc. They know it’s a plant. That’s about it. Ignorance about food is at an all time high and modern western society - or at least American society - is highly divorced from the act of food production.

            Here’s a short list of things that are actually berries: bananas, watermelon, cucumbers, pumpkins, tomatoes, peppers, grapes, oranges and kiwis. Aside from accessory fruits which are not berries, there are also drupes - stone fruit such as cherries, plums, avocados, etc, which are sometimes lumped under the umbrella of berries and sometimes considered distinct.

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    How did we do an entire module on George Washington Carver in first grade, and they never told me peanuts grow in the ground like potatoes

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      Well, a key question is ‘Do you think a chimpanzee would let Joe Rogan fuck them?’

      Because if not, it’s not consensual, and that opens up some serious questions.

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        Good luck trying to fuck a chimpanzee without consent. Those are strong as hell.

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          OK, I’m not for attempting to fuck chimpanzees without consent either.

          But yeah, you are right. One of those serious questions - with the most serious of consequences - would be: “Could you actually fuck a chimpanzee without consent?”

          Jamie, pull that up for me.

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          It probably says more about me than Joe, that I didn’t want to click that link, because I thought it might actually be real.

          But, it’s great, and thanks for sharing it

          🐵

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      Peanuts, like coconuts, are not nuts. A person with nut allergy is not necessarily allergic to peanuts (and vice versa). They are 2 separate allergies.

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          Almonds are a stone fruit, too. It’s just that the part we eat is inside the pit. Ever notice how almonds still in the shell kinda look like a peach pit?

          Peaches and plums used to be cherry sized, too (and cherries are stone fruits as well, but selective breeding got the fruit-to-pit ratio better for peaches/plums/apricots/nectarines).

          So some recipes call for processing cherry pits, and the flavor is pretty close to almond extract. Because almond extract is just bitter almonds processed in a similar way.

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        Yup, my dad is allergic to nuts (hazelnuts, brazil nuts, and walnuts), but has no issues with peanuts. I have a cousin who’s allergic to peanuts, and IIRC he can eat nuts just fine.

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      It’s fucking gloriously precise. Amazing how some people can convey speech with writing so well.

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    I grew fennel last year. Have been eating fennel for years and thought we were eating the root part (the white part) and that the green part was the above ground part. No. There is a root underground but the whole fennel sits on top of the soil looking like it will tip over any minute. The white and green parts.

    I know food, have worked at groceries, in restaurants, health food stores, I cook. But gardening has taught me new things, and I’m over 50.