Hexbear might actually be one of the most non-bigoted places on the internet. we are militantly against bigotry. no epic logical debates here, you just get smacked in the fucking face by a banhammer if you try that shit here
I’m not sure quite what to think about the Baltics. Obviously fuck their governments, and the numerous institutions pushing Holocaust revisionism and denial and re-writing 20th century history. But blanket-condemning little countries like that, no matter how shitty their government is, feels different from blanket condemning the US or UK. They’re under the NATO umbrella but despite being little pissant countries with fash governments they’re not exerting hegemonic power and are at most expendable speed bumps for Imperialism. I can’t imagine it’s fun or say being a dissident in the Baltics. hell, I don’t even think it’s legal, is it? Yeah, looks like they’ve got some blanket laws they use to hunt down Communists and, probably, anyone they think is communist
I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven’t had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90’s.
Yeah. The idea of a country that’s the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that’s great that you’re in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they’re going to have more clout than you by a silly margin.
The weirdest thing about the baltics is how they love to act as rabid dogs for nato/US but in the event of an actual war between nato and russia the only purpose they serve is to give the ghouls in DC and the pentagon a couple extra minutes to get to the bunker
I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren’t already interested in a hot war.
You have no idea the restraint it took for me not to post the “Estonians are slop-eating Hungarians” tweet at the lem.ee admin during that whole debacle
Eh. The Baltics are very small countries with… what’s the nice way to say this… Fascist collaborationist governments that have worked hard to control the narrative, erase the crimes of the 30s and 40s, and create a questionable view of 20th century history. It’s like any other country - Shitheads, none shitheads, and regular people in between. The official government line and the views of many citizens are hard right-wing, holocaust denial, and support for Nazi collaborators. You’re going to run in to a lot of fash and fash-adjacent assholes.
Edited bc I realized I’ve been saying Balkans instead of Baltics all day.
Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world’s stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn’t involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia.
I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don’t entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing?
Yeah it’s pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet
the fact they think so many trans people are out and about fascists is fucking wild. plus they talk about blahaj being ran by trans people, which is true, but also ignore that the trans community on lemmy is largely here, and for very obvious reasons
10% trans users on lemmygrad + 30% from hexbear, assuming we have no crossover (and I don’t think we have much) means 40% of our combined user base is trans (or 20 idk), WAY above world averages and way above what most instances can boast.
Compared to the lemmyverse as a whole however I’m not sure of the proportion our two instances represent, we’d have to look at active users on all relevant websites
Still waiting for blahaj to finally run a demos survey btw.
Two imaginary groups, one with 100 people and one with 1000. The group with 100 has 50 trans people (50%). The group with 1000 people has 500 trans people (also 50%). By your method, they would be 100% trans in total. In reality, the total would be that 550 out of 1100 are trans, again 50%.
Second round: one group is 50/100 (50%) trans and the other is 50/1000 (5%) trans. Does that mean they are 55% trans cumulatively? No, they are 9.091% trans.
idk the numbers for our instances but I imagine that it’s around 25%.
We can finally complete the gay agenda by adding together groups of 100% trans people until we achieve a 100,000% group, then adding that group to the rest of humanity.
10% trans users on lemmygrad + 30% from hexbear, assuming we have no crossover (and I don’t think we have much) means 40% of our combined user base is trans, WAY above world averages and way above what most instances can boast.
🤓 um, ackshually, it would be 20%, because sample percentages are averaged into each other when added, not counting for the actual numerical difference between the instances’ userbases
10% trans users on lemmygrad + 30% from hexbear, assuming we have no crossover (and I don’t think we have much) means 40% of our combined user base is trans
Uhh I’m a dummy but wouldn’t it be under 30% with the exact number depending on exact userbase sizes of 'grad and 'bear?
It’s also a motte and bailey fallacy that the internet debate experts are mysteriously refraining from jumping on. “All posts are fascist” != “if you browse long enough you will eventually see a fascist post”.
So mad I can’t post my mspaint graphic over there now
You all have been found out.
Hexbear might actually be one of the most non-bigoted places on the internet. we are militantly against bigotry. no epic logical debates here, you just get smacked in the fucking face by a banhammer if you try that shit here
Except for Estonians. The exception that proves the rule.
I’m not sure quite what to think about the Baltics. Obviously fuck their governments, and the numerous institutions pushing Holocaust revisionism and denial and re-writing 20th century history. But blanket-condemning little countries like that, no matter how shitty their government is, feels different from blanket condemning the US or UK. They’re under the NATO umbrella but despite being little pissant countries with fash governments they’re not exerting hegemonic power and are at most expendable speed bumps for Imperialism. I can’t imagine it’s fun or say being a dissident in the Baltics. hell, I don’t even think it’s legal, is it? Yeah, looks like they’ve got some blanket laws they use to hunt down Communists and, probably, anyone they think is communist
Idk, I gotta think about it.
To be clear, my comment was a joke about the lemm.ee admin saying we think Estonians are subhuman earlier this week.
I still wanna know what was up with that. I honestly haven’t had a single thought in my head about Estonia since I skipped a lecture to go see Encino Man in the 90’s.
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Yeah. The idea of a country that’s the size of a medium suburb having any role in global geopolitics is funny. Like yeah, guys, that’s great that you’re in NATO. By the way Dallas, Phoenix, and San Anton are all going to join too, and they’re going to have more clout than you by a silly margin.
he clearly misread “italians” as “estonians”
The weirdest thing about the baltics is how they love to act as rabid dogs for nato/US
but in the event of an actual war between nato and russia the only purpose they serve is to give the ghouls in DC and the pentagon a couple extra minutes to get to the bunker
I ran in to 1 (one) Baltic resident who was somehow convinced that their military would be a significant obstacle for Russia in the event of a war and I suspect that nationalism might have been involved in clouding their judgement. I honestly doubt NATO would even respond to a Russian invasion in the little fringe countries if they weren’t already interested in a hot war.
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You have no idea the restraint it took for me not to post the “Estonians are slop-eating Hungarians” tweet at the lem.ee admin during that whole debacle
I thought it was Latvians. Potato people is too vague I guess.
Eh. The Baltics are very small countries with… what’s the nice way to say this… Fascist collaborationist governments that have worked hard to control the narrative, erase the crimes of the 30s and 40s, and create a questionable view of 20th century history. It’s like any other country - Shitheads, none shitheads, and regular people in between. The official government line and the views of many citizens are hard right-wing, holocaust denial, and support for Nazi collaborators. You’re going to run in to a lot of fash and fash-adjacent assholes.
Edited bc I realized I’ve been saying Balkans instead of Baltics all day.
I think you mean Baltic.
Just gonna also throw out that a ton of the world’s stateless people live in the Baltic countries because they denied ethnic minorities citizenship after the fall of the USSR unlike every other former Soviet country. IIRC Lithuania isn’t involved in that at least, I think just Estonia and Latvia.
Wow. I’m pretty sure that’s a capital C Crime Against Humanity.
I believe most countries have signed an agreement never to create a stateless person due to how vulnerable they are to abuse.
That’s a why, for example, the
claims that Shamina Begum was a Bangladeshi citizen when they revoked her citizenship.
I remember that. That was really fucked. Political exiles in the democracy loving freedom of speech west? Hardly surprising but very against the marketing. I still don’t entirely understand what their purpose is with that. Is it a way to reinforce anti-immigrant rhetoric in preparation for some kind of V for Vendetta more fascist Britain thing?
Yeah it’s pretty bad. You could conceivably have had parents born in the country and been born in the country yourself and still be denied citizenship in 1991 because they refused to recognise anything Soviet
No, no no… its only Italians.
Why you cutta momma’s heart lika-a da pizza.
MAMMA MIA!
I wish
I was kidding.
I know, I’m dunking on them here as I can’t do it there
the fact they think so many trans people are out and about fascists is fucking wild. plus they talk about blahaj being ran by trans people, which is true, but also ignore that the trans community on lemmy is largely here, and for very obvious reasons
10% trans users on lemmygrad + 30% from hexbear, assuming we have no crossover (and I don’t think we have much) means 40% of our combined user base is trans (or 20 idk), WAY above world averages and way above what most instances can boast.
Compared to the lemmyverse as a whole however I’m not sure of the proportion our two instances represent, we’d have to look at active users on all relevant websites
Still waiting for blahaj to finally run a demos survey btw.
… that’s not how percentages work
lemmygrad seems to be trans-friendly, and hexbear certainly is, but you can’t just add percentages together to get the total percentage
Um if it’s not how they work, then how come I just did it?
Math is the thirteenth type of liberalism
Two imaginary groups, one with 100 people and one with 1000. The group with 100 has 50 trans people (50%). The group with 1000 people has 500 trans people (also 50%). By your method, they would be 100% trans in total. In reality, the total would be that 550 out of 1100 are trans, again 50%.
Second round: one group is 50/100 (50%) trans and the other is 50/1000 (5%) trans. Does that mean they are 55% trans cumulatively? No, they are 9.091% trans.
idk the numbers for our instances but I imagine that it’s around 25%.
I like his method more.
We can finally complete the gay agenda by adding together groups of 100% trans people until we achieve a 100,000% group, then adding that group to the rest of humanity.
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10% x 40% = 400% trans lemmyverse. Deal with it.
Just jumping in to confirm for passersby that Lemmygrad is very much trans-friendly.
Cannot help with the math.
🤓 um, ackshually, it would be 20%, because sample percentages are averaged into each other when added, not counting for the actual numerical difference between the instances’ userbases
cursed with being a data science major
there there. It’s okay. We can probably find some memes stupid enough to cure you of maths.
You didn’t weight your averages! Such a lightweight. 🤓
I acknowledged it because I didn’t want to check
Uhh I’m a dummy but wouldn’t it be under 30% with the exact number depending on exact userbase sizes of 'grad and 'bear?
No evidence, just vibes
Vibes based defederation
Response 1 to that:
Lol maybe they shouldn’t believe a claim that has no evidence!
Response to that:
Since when do leftists support a capitalist like Putin? This is what late-stage Russia Derangement Syndrome looks like.
It’s also a motte and bailey fallacy that the internet debate experts are mysteriously refraining from jumping on. “All posts are fascist” != “if you browse long enough you will eventually see a fascist post”.
So mad I can’t post my mspaint graphic over there now
What the fuck, I pretend to be an anarchist