I really do mean this non-rhetorically: what do these bazinga chuds propose about his “concerning!!” issue? It sure as shit isn’t material aid for women.
Consider that capitalists view workers as, essentially, livestock and you will get your answer (this is also why I believe veganism and socialism are linked)
Look out, we got a live one in this thread. If you look at his “both sides” comments and read between the lines, you can see how much he’s salivating for that aforementioned livestock.
The old-school r/cth energy is always at its strongest whenever a conservative dipshit wanders in, lol
Hexbearites are siblings. We will constantly antagonize each other over the dumbest shit but if someone from outside comes after any of us, we unleash our fury as one
I’ve never understood this. Have you tried not raping people? Women will put up with a lot of fucked up shit before they try and report something. Then these incels rant about how you can’t be in a room alone with women or talk to them at work without getting reported for harassment.
It says a lot about you when you think false rape accusations are real.
conservatives […] support organizations that provide essential supplies and care to pregnant women and mothers
lmao no they don’t, conservatives have spent decades systemically dismantling every form of assistance for mothers. Their credo is “there is no such thing as society” and if you can’t afford to raise your kid then fuck you, that’s your problem not theirs, pull yourself up by your boostraps
It’s funny because for all their posturing about “protecting children,” kids are everything conservatives despise: weak, unable to produce value for capital, and not yet fully assimilated into the neoliberal propaganda machine.
Who does that economic “boost” benefit? Because we’re sitting on 40 years of neoliberal policy that has squeezed the working class to achieve it and the benefits sure as shit haven’t trickled down. I’d say that’s enough time to draw conclusions from the data.
you can’t pay women to have kids. not saying you’re doing this but a lot of the time when this gets brought up on here male leftists love to go on as if material supports will make women go back to being broodmares. it’s a reactionary and essentialist view. when women are afforded more reproductive rights and general freedoms to choose their own way in life, they have less kids. it’s not a purely economic issue.
It is primarily economic issue but not in that sense. Subsistence farmers tend to have a lot of kids, because each kid expands labour power of the family, improving the quality of life of all its members. In industrialized urban society each kid is a drain on family’s resources for the next 20 years and family’s quality of life plummets, and then capitalism makes it even worse. We know that even in medieval times birth rates in cities were atrocious, despite minimal women’s rights.
I bet people would have more children with more equitable ways of actually raising them, instead of the ol’ dumping all reproductive labour - unpaid - on women. Money for domestic housewives was a thing they used to talk about in feminist circles in the 70s, more as a thought exercise, but there really is something there. By that I mean the crying out for justice and equitability and liberation not that we should just pay people with uteruses to pop out babies lol
I agree with this. Having access to more public resources related to raising a child, and maybe if families were structured so that other family members other than the parents could help, it would make raising a child less daunting. Still won’t be easy but I am sure people would be more receptive to having children.
In the current situation, if you are a parent living in an isolated nuclear family having to work long hours you are fucked. Raising a child becomes extremely difficult. I found /r/regretfulparents a while back and seems like 90% of the posts are complaining about having no help, including from their husband most of the time.
Yeah sometimes divorcing a husband can actually lead to LESS work and higher quality of life because of how little said husband was doing before, just adding mess and being another mouth to feed
there’s probably a healthy middle ground between “all women should be permanently pregnant” and “no kids ever”. Like, building a world where we can sustainably support the continuation of humankind, while also leaving room for people wanting to go childless or have a big family, is not the same as wanting to control who gets how many children. We also have to think about the fact that the last few hundred years have been very chaotic and rapidly changing and it’s very hard to determine where the “”“natural”“” ( I know natural is not a thing really) birthrate should be in the context of a normal, non fucked society existing in a cooperative global environment because we haven’t seen one of those yet.
Hey Siri what’s the average cost of raising a child
Hey Siri, what’s the minimum wage
I really do mean this non-rhetorically: what do these bazinga chuds propose about his “concerning!!” issue? It sure as shit isn’t material aid for women.
Consider that capitalists view workers as, essentially, livestock and you will get your answer (this is also why I believe veganism and socialism are linked)
absolutely, I think a lot of this stems from animal husbandry applied to people
Look out, we got a live one in this thread. If you look at his “both sides” comments and read between the lines, you can see how much he’s salivating for that aforementioned livestock.
The old-school r/cth energy is always at its strongest whenever a conservative dipshit wanders in, lol
Hexbearites are siblings. We will constantly antagonize each other over the dumbest shit but if someone from outside comes after any of us, we unleash our fury as one
Hexbear, setting aside outdoor cat struggle sessions when a stray “both sides” conservative shows up:
We’re all outdoor robo-cats here struggling against each other but if somebody shows up we form into a Voltron.
That feel when Hexbear is about to dunk some “what about the false rape accusations” chud:
I’ve never understood this. Have you tried not raping people? Women will put up with a lot of fucked up shit before they try and report something. Then these incels rant about how you can’t be in a room alone with women or talk to them at work without getting reported for harassment.
It says a lot about you when you think false rape accusations are real.
What anime is this gif from?
why he so caked up slangin that vanilla pound out there
Bit time: Jordan Peterson stops the grift and becomes a leftist upon seeing what is no different than cock milking.
Usually it’s tax for childless. Though current iteration of christo and bazinga fash might want to go further.
No carrot, only stick
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lmao no they don’t, conservatives have spent decades systemically dismantling every form of assistance for mothers. Their credo is “there is no such thing as society” and if you can’t afford to raise your kid then fuck you, that’s your problem not theirs, pull yourself up by your boostraps
Telling a baby to push itself out of it’s own womb because it hasn’t been issued bootstraps yet.
There’s a reason why children conveniently don’t exist or get mentioned in Atlas Shrugged.
The title was actually the result of somebody asking Atlas what to do if a baby starts crying.
Atlas shrugged off paying child support.
It’s funny because for all their posturing about “protecting children,” kids are everything conservatives despise: weak, unable to produce value for capital, and not yet fully assimilated into the neoliberal propaganda machine.
Chuds want to screw children in more ways than one.
Who does that economic “boost” benefit? Because we’re sitting on 40 years of neoliberal policy that has squeezed the working class to achieve it and the benefits sure as shit haven’t trickled down. I’d say that’s enough time to draw conclusions from the data.
you can’t pay women to have kids. not saying you’re doing this but a lot of the time when this gets brought up on here male leftists love to go on as if material supports will make women go back to being broodmares. it’s a reactionary and essentialist view. when women are afforded more reproductive rights and general freedoms to choose their own way in life, they have less kids. it’s not a purely economic issue.
It is primarily economic issue but not in that sense. Subsistence farmers tend to have a lot of kids, because each kid expands labour power of the family, improving the quality of life of all its members. In industrialized urban society each kid is a drain on family’s resources for the next 20 years and family’s quality of life plummets, and then capitalism makes it even worse. We know that even in medieval times birth rates in cities were atrocious, despite minimal women’s rights.
I bet people would have more children with more equitable ways of actually raising them, instead of the ol’ dumping all reproductive labour - unpaid - on women. Money for domestic housewives was a thing they used to talk about in feminist circles in the 70s, more as a thought exercise, but there really is something there. By that I mean the crying out for justice and equitability and liberation not that we should just pay people with uteruses to pop out babies lol
I agree with this. Having access to more public resources related to raising a child, and maybe if families were structured so that other family members other than the parents could help, it would make raising a child less daunting. Still won’t be easy but I am sure people would be more receptive to having children.
In the current situation, if you are a parent living in an isolated nuclear family having to work long hours you are fucked. Raising a child becomes extremely difficult. I found /r/regretfulparents a while back and seems like 90% of the posts are complaining about having no help, including from their husband most of the time.
Yeah sometimes divorcing a husband can actually lead to LESS work and higher quality of life because of how little said husband was doing before, just adding mess and being another mouth to feed
there’s probably a healthy middle ground between “all women should be permanently pregnant” and “no kids ever”. Like, building a world where we can sustainably support the continuation of humankind, while also leaving room for people wanting to go childless or have a big family, is not the same as wanting to control who gets how many children. We also have to think about the fact that the last few hundred years have been very chaotic and rapidly changing and it’s very hard to determine where the “”“natural”“” ( I know natural is not a thing really) birthrate should be in the context of a normal, non fucked society existing in a cooperative global environment because we haven’t seen one of those yet.