• Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Remember when all those politicians, actors, and activists went to that global climate change meeting on private planes?

    Rich ppl will do nothing if it even inconveniences them a smidgen.

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    21 days ago

    They don’t care about serving good coffee at affordable prices either. I drink black coffee and their Pike Roast tastes like burnt flavor crystals.

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    21 days ago

    It’s an apartheid.

    Their wealth can protect them from climate change, so they have no good reason to change their behavior.

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      21 days ago

      Increasingly I think it actually might protect them. Not in a postapocalyptic bunker or a libertarian private island but rather in the upper echelons of a less climate-striken authoritarian country. One where there’s still a functioning society, enough labor to sustain an economy and a compliant political and law enforcement classes happy to maintain some form of apartheid. The Arabian peninsula countries could be a model.

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          The thing why I am not 100% sure this will work is that the wealthy especially today increasingly hold abstract wealth. It’s in the form of money and other financial instruments. All of those are IOUs owed to them in labor. In other words it’s only meaningful because someone will accept these IOUs in order to do some work in exchange. This is even true for natural resources and more automated services because all of them require some amount of labor to extract or maintain. With that in mind, say the source countries where these IOUs commanded labor fall apart (mass death, political upheaval, etc) then they go with these IOUs to Qatar to Uncle Putin to purchase a citizenship. Putin could accept those IOUs in exange for a citizenship. However he wouldn’t be able to buy anything with them from because they are no longer accepted. So why would he take the wealthy person? Surely he isn’t so naive to believe every wealthy person is actually as valuable in their ability as their wealth. So I’m thinking, and I’m not confident in this thought, but I feel like its possible that the first wave might be able to buy its way into Traditional Values Federation, while the global economy isn’t dead yet. As things start to crumble, it’ll get harder and harder to do so. Perhaps in the later rounds of the lottery, only people who have some other type of capital, not financial, would qualify. E.g. a guy from ASML with all the blueprints to build 1nm lithography machines. In fact, even if financial capital is accepted in exchange for citizenships it will probably not be accepted in the landing country in order to prevent it from being deployed against the existing political class. Adding a lot of billionaires in Russia and letting them spend domestically can dismantle the regime that let them in.

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            21 days ago

            It could be you’re right.

            I don’t think anyone can really say how it will work out in the end, but I am comfortable in saying I’m sure the wealthy will survive it unscathed.

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            Wow this is completely detached from reality in an Econ101 kind of way.

            The problem is that these are not “IOUs” but paper printed by the most violent empire(s) in history. The choice is to serve or starve. Their “other kind of capital” is literally guns, not blueprints ffs.

            People will be violently forced to serve just like they are and always have been.

      • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.vg
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        As long as the markets are open, the “free market” will ensure that they are comfortable. That’s the purpose of the free market. They only suffer when markets close (and their money becomes useless).

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        Yep. Why do you think these creeps are so exciting about building walls and murdering refugees? Fortress europe and fortress canada must be defended against the desperate masses.

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      21 days ago

      You can’t eat money. They might live comfortably for longer but eventually they’ll be just as turbo fucked as we are.

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      I’ve never been in a Starbucks.The thought of drinking coffee that isn’t does not appeal to me.

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      You could go into a Starbucks while it’s busy, and when it’s your turn to order go. “I want a … thing. One of those … cylindrical” Basically, try to waste as much of the workers time as possible, without actually ordering anything. An important thing is that there’s people waiting behind you, so that you waste their time as well.

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        Or just order water? It’s free for you, but costs the company money, while not making it difficult for the employees. Doing what you suggested is all around shitty for the workers who are just trying to get through their day and earn a wage, as well as the people in line wanting a drink. The company will not be affected in any way with your suggestion.

        I’ve been boycotting the company for years now, even the items you can get in grocery stores (since at least some of them are made by Nestle, so double boycott points). Anytime anyone suggests we grab starbucks, I offer an alternative and we end up trying a local coffee shop or other non-terrible franchise.

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    21 days ago

    My take is that the super wealthy already know there’s no saving this mess, and they won’t survive much longer either, so they’re just squeezing the lemon for whatever juice is left before it all blows sky high.

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    In Ministry for the Future, one of the major plot points partway through the book is that eco-terrorists (eco-partisans, really, considering the subject matter and general gist of the book) start blasting planes out of the sky. They hit a few civilian airliners, but the vast majority of their targets are private jets.

    Do with that what you will.

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    how much carbon dioxide does this supercommute produce, expressed in cars/day?

    edit: i guess it’s just cars

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      21 days ago

      how do they all do it? It’s like going over a certain threshold of wealth makes ones face take one some subtle traits that increase the desire of others to punch.

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        “And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.” ― William Gibson, Count Zero

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    21 days ago

    Jesus, if I remember correctly, usually travelled by donkey or by foot

    If Jesus had access to it, he’d totally be a fixed gear bicycle cat zooming through the alleyways of Jerusalem.

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    Starbucks just can’t stop shooting itself in the foot. Just when it had given some concessions to the union. Fuck Starbucks.

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      This CEO is getting paid $113 millions a year while their workers live on tips. I hope they face bigger boycotts and bigger losses