Transcription: A side by side picture of Star Trek Strange New Worlds character Hemmer and The Next Generation character Geordi La Forge.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    84
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Clearly you haven’t spent enough time around engineers. There’s a reason the laser warning sign says " do not use remaining eye to look at laser "

    • GreenMario@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      1 year ago

      Reminds me when Data and Geordi was testing that phaser right next to the damn Warp Core.

      Forget the episode but it’s the one Romulans mind controlled Geordi.

      • paintbucketholder@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        It’s crazy that the entire engineering section on Starfleet ships is just right next to the warp core, with absolutely zero structural separation.

        The number of times ships had to eject their warp core, or had the warp core go critical, or had other warp core related accidents, you’d think Starfleet would have learned not to exclusively rely on emergency force fields and that they would have simply built two separate sections for engineering and for the warp core.

        But no, even after all those experiences, they instead even ditched the isolation doors when they designed the Intrepid class, and basically wrapped the engineering section around the open warp core.

        Cause what could possibly go wrong with that approach, eh?

      • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        1 year ago

        I feel like they do that all the time throughout the TNG era, owing to the fact that they didn’t have a “science lab” set in addition to the warp core set which at any rate looked cool and they wanted to use it whenever they could.

        • GreenMario@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          Sets are expensive.

          But yes never ever test a phaser next to the Warp Core, kids. That’s a violation of the OSHA Directive.

          • Hobbes@startrek.website
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            I mean at least the pointed it away from the core.

            IIRC either data or Geordie were standing right next to the target box when they first it the first time. They sure trusted their aim.

    • teft@startrek.websiteOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      39
      ·
      1 year ago

      Geordi isn’t really “blind” though, he just sees in a different way than other humans do

      • milkisklim@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Not directly related, but my favorite exchange about human eyesight…

        (Lt. Commander Data) “Sir, Lieutenant La Forge’s eyes are far superior to human biological eyes, true?”

        (Capt. Picard) “M-hm.”

        (Lt. Commander Data) “Then why are not all human officers required to have their eyes replaced with cybernetic implants?”

        (Lt. Commander Data) “I see. It is precisely because I am not human.”

    • JoYo@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hemner isn’t human.

      I thought the blue skin and antenna gave it away.

  • mercano@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    1 year ago

    Geordi started as the blind navigator, for irony. They moved him to engineering in season 2 when they decided the did need a chief engineer as a regular character, and Wesley could serve as helmsman.

    • HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Geordi started as the blind navigator, for irony

      To be fair, a space ship is probably strictly on IFR all the time. Can’t imagine the Enterprise doing a lot of visual approaches.

      Also IIRC canonically Geordi’s implant gives him better vision than natural eyes.

      • Obsidiman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t know if Geordi would describe vision with his VISOR as “better”, just that it allows him to see more of the E.M. spectrum. The few times he gets to see with natural eyes (when Riker’s Q powers restored his eyes, and when the magic immortality planet “healed” him) he describes seeing beauty that he normally isn’t capable of experiencing. “Better” is always subjective

        • crashoverride@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Also don’t forget like he said it was like seeing everything all at once, it’s just a bunch of noise and you have to learn to pick out what you want to see. Like when you’re out of concert and everybody is loud around you and you want to listen to your friend, you have to learn how to do that, I’m not sure I’d classify that as better

        • samus12345@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, my understanding is that it wasn’t better. But I imagine his “current” implants are.

  • UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s the same amount of Vulcan science officers! (Maybe even 2½, if you count Burnham’s upbringing)

    • theinspectorst@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 year ago

      ‘Hi we’re Starfleet, and we recruit our captains from among the best and the brightest on 150 member worlds, spread over 8,000 light years! But the vast majority of the time, when it’s not Jean-Luc Picard, we just get them from this one particular country that accounts for about 4% of the population of Earth. Weird, huh?’

    • teft@startrek.websiteOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 year ago

      Wait, are you counting T’Pol and Spock? What about Tuvok? He was a science officer on the Excelsior.

        • teft@startrek.websiteOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Well he should count for half like Michael. :D

          I see after your edit that you posted a pic of Enterprise B. I was talking about when he made tea for Sulu on Excelsior.

        • MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          There was a flashback to Tuvok on Excelsior, as well. It is incredibly confusing.

          If this was Star Wars they would have “Special Editioned” in some Vulcan ears (on Enterprise B) by now.

        • teft@startrek.websiteOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yes, and during one episode he has flashbacks to the excelsior where he served with sulu. On the excelsior he was a junior science officer.

  • Stamets@startrek.website
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    I was talking about the lack of a Discovery engineer on another post. Why not make you 15 cents richer and bring in a blind engineer there too?

      • reddig33@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s not like anyone knows half the names of the crew of Discovery. Most of the time it was The Michael Burnham Show ™.

      • Stamets@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Nope. He isn’t. LtCmdr Paul Stamets isn’t an Engineer and he never has been. He’s a Science Officer. He works in Engineering Test Bay Alpha but he isn’t an Engineer himself. Jett Reno is the highest ranking Engineering Officer we ever see on Discovery.

        In Season 2, Reno goes into Stamets lab and says “The Chief sent me here” so we know there’s a Chief Engineer and it isn’t Stamets.

        That link doesn’t have any information about Stamets after Season 1. I think they’re using ‘chief engineer’ to mean the ‘main engineer we see’ but that’s not even accurate. Then again, Memory Alpha calls the Chief Medical Officer the ‘head nurse’ so fuck knows what’s going on.

      • Bonehead@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        He was just a mycology engineer, not the chief engineer. I honestly can’t remember if we ever see main engineering on Discovery. They mostly work in the Spore Drive engine room. But that was Discovery’s schtick, that it wasn’t the “main” crew that were the stars originally.

        • jammydodger@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          But that link literally says he’s the chief engineer. I’ve never actually watched discovery though.

          • Bonehead@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            He eventually became chief engineer when Burnham was made captain. He started out just as a regular crew member. None of the main cast were in special positions at the beginning. That was one of the main complaints, because we never learn much about the bridge officers.

            • Stamets@startrek.website
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              He never became Chief Engineer because Stamets was never an Engineering Officer. He’s in Science Division. The link is just flat out wrong. I suspect they might be using ‘chief’ engineer to mean that he’s the engineer we see the most of in Season 1. Also that link hasn’t been updated since Season 1.

                • Stamets@startrek.website
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  And what season is that from? I’m guessing Season 1 because Paul is not the Chief Engineer. It has been openly said that he’s not the chief engineer. So clearly plans changed somewhere between season 1 and 2. It doesn’t even make any sense for him to be chief engineer in the first place. He is an astromycologist.

                  Edit: It was a production mistake. He isn’t Chief Engineer.

                  A graphic seen in “Choose Your Pain” referred to Stamets as the chief engineer, but Ted Sullivan discarded this as a production mistake, quipping, “I’d say he’s the chief engineer of spore drive but not of engineering.” 

                  Ted is a producer of the show.

      • XaeroDegreaz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m seeing people saying both I, and the official Star Trek bio that I linked are wrong. How about an image of his personnel file?

        Some people just like to argue for no reason at all.

  • reddig33@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    If they were smart, they’d bring back Hemmer in the first episode of season three. Having him on one of the Gorn ships would be a perfect entryway for the storyline.

        • Dudewitbow@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          All the big companies who owned a majority of cable television channels have all essentially created their own streaming service

          Paramount/CBS: Paramount+

          Disney/ABC: Disney+

          NBC/Comcast: Peacock

          Fox: not aware if they have a major one

          CW/WB/Discover: HBO Max

          Then of course the conpanies that spawned from streaming services.

          • kamenLady@startrek.website
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            All the big companies who owned a majority of cable television channels have all essentially created their own streaming service

            Before that, we had all their content together available on Netflix. Like it should be.

            Imagine if each record label would do their own streaming service and pull their content from Spotify, YouTube music and Apple music.

            Would all 3 take the Netflix way and start producing their own bands?

            Music is still not being pirated as much as before Spotify & co existed. The streaming model still works.

            I have a feeling that now, that the streaming model for movies & series got more confusing and more expensive than before, the seas will be full of pirates again.

            I loved having all of Star Trek together on Netflix, together with everything else. Just like it is with music, it was somehow very comforting having such a good service for the money paid.

            • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Is trek not available on Netflix in other countries? I’m in Canada and we have TNG, Voyager, TOS, and DS9 on Netflix.

              • kamenLady@startrek.website
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                Actually we have all those still in Germany - also TAS. I should have phrased it better - i meant new Star Trek, like lower decks, SNW, Picard, Discovery & Prodigy

          • jet@hackertalks.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            If only the streaming services could federate and make it all very easy.

            They have to be easier then piracy. Not cheaper, just easier. And right now… They are missing that mark

      • salton@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I watched the few first episodes and didn’t hate it but wasn’t really interested where it was going. Is it worth watching the rest?