I assume that a significant number of people here became leftists because of a brief ephemeral momentum that Bernie Sanders was the figurehead of. This has to sting a bit.
What turned me to the left wasn’t Bernie per se, but how the DNC was exposed to be cheating in Hil’s favor and how the Wikileaks report that exposed it was buried by the media.
There was a clear party interest in opposing leftward movement, and a clear media collusion in that.
This greatly disillusioned me
The “coin toss” rituals were such an obvious ratfuck during the primaries: ever watch the videos of the “coin tosses?” The loyal ghouls doing them caught the coin, glanced at it, then set it down on the arm.
It doesn’t take a math teacher to tell someone that 9 coin tosses out of 10 going to
on actual fair coin tosses is very, very unlikely.I don’t remember this!
I watched it happen live, one toss at a time. All my faith in the DNC died that day.
There was some obscure coin toss thing in Iowa to determine delegate numbers in the primary, Hilary “won” six in a row with a ~1.5 percent probability
it’s stopped stinging by now but yeah, it did the first time
definitely wasn’t the only thing that radicalized me but it was that era
It definitely pushed me to examine my own chauvinism, even if i had considered myself a radical long before Bernard
Still, it was wild to have a shred of optimism
Wonder what the numbers are or how folks here got pushed to it. For me just being from the global south I found it in other ways.
He was at least an
politician I had some respect for. I’d already lost all respect for him because of his groveling for Biden and finding out that he voted in favor of bombing Serbia, but his neocon and Israel lover arc has made me give me strength to comrade heart attack.I’m not even from the US, but it was inspiring to see what he was doing out there anyways… ah well, nevertheless
Objectively the moderate wing of fascism.
Bernard “Genocide Defender” Sanders strikes again
We thought he was Genosse Sanders, he’s actually Genocide Bernard
Democrats are getting desperate. Even the most casual DSA leftists have stopped trusting every word out of Bernie’s mouth for at least a year now.
Does he even use the word “genocide”? As soon as he used the worn down harm reduction argument, I tuned out.
Did he actually say harm reduction?? That would be amazing, like he is admitting that they are doing harm and won’t stop.
Like their campaign promise officially is “we aren’t as harmful”.
I had to turn it off at about 1:10, the bot below has a safer link.
He basically says yeah it’s bad, but Trump and friends are worse.
Oh I’m not watching that, thanks though 👍
seriously though there is spineless and then there’s spineless while maintaining the illusion of walking upright.
Omg I made the mistake of watching further. He says that if Trump wins “the struggle with climate change is over” LIKE KAMALA ISN’T PRO FRACKING AND PRO INFINITE ECONOMIC GROWTH YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
Yeah no this video is ragebait for leftists and a circlejerk for libs. Do not recommend. They’re out of touch if they really thought this would get them new voters.
A palette cleanser? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLNQEHbusSA
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
btw that link had a tracking info in it so it will get nuked by the mods. The link is https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY&t=74
The &si=… needs to be taken out just fyi
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He has never used the word genocide, except to dismiss the charge of it as it would incrimate the entire US government. Yet is careful to not mention that fact, except he does admit it is wholly complicit in what’s going on there.
Depressing.
was greatly influential in pulling liberals leftward, yet also serves as a block against further movement.Does bernie support bds? Or only bibi bad politics
“While I do not support the BDS movement, we must defend every American’s constitutional right to engage in political activity. It is clear to me that this bill would violate Americans’ First Amendment rights.” - Bernie Sanders, 2019
I saw him answer that question by saying that he’s against sanctions on principle, look at how much damage they’re doing to Cuba etc. Unreal.
Even though he voted for sanctions on official bad guy countries like Russia and Venezuela.
Did he actually? I’m not finding record of this
He says he’s a big fan idk though https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-iran-and-russia-sanctions/
even in this statement
But I believe that these new sanctions could endanger the very important nuclear agreement that was signed between the United States, its partners and Iran in 2015. That is not a risk worth taking, particularly at a time of heightened tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia and its allies.
I’m not finding any evidence that Sanders has ever voted for a sanction in a final bill. It kind of doesn’t matter anyway, because the president just unilaterally imposes sanctions, it seems.
If he says he supports them in principle but opposes this instance, then the original comment where he says he opposes them on principle is false
Oh fuck off Bernard
continues to only disappoint. pathetic
Damn the democrats are fucking ruthless. Can’t believe they’re making him film a video telling everybody else to just abandoned anything even resembling a value like he did.
That heart attack gun better be fucking real.
it’s not, he’s just a monster like the rest of them.
I’d love to know how many people this actually appeals to. Are there really that many “progressives” happy to see someone who once inspired them simping for the establishment that cucked him so bad?
Although based on the YouTube comments people love this shit
don’t read them if you don’t want psychic damageHonestly at this point I think Bernie’s currently vocal “supporters” are actually conservative Dems using him like a cudgel to guilt-trip and exploit progressive voters into moving to the right. Bernie doesn’t seem to mind playing right into their strategy - maybe he doesn’t know, maybe he doesn’t care.
At the same time I don’t think progressives are even a functional political bloc anymore which makes it all kind of funny. It’s like the conservatives crossed the finish line and won the race 4 years ago, but they didn’t realize it so they’re still out there running all by themselves.
Don’t go on world politics comm cause they’re so excited to see him saying trump will be worse everywhere
One year ago my brother told me “European politicians are Nazis but at least Britain has Corbyn and America has Bernie.”
Corbyn at least kept his spine
One year ago? Did you just wake up from a coma?
While it would have been funny if he had announced his unconditional support of the Al-Qassam brigades a week before the election, I guess we live in the real world where this happens instead. There shouldn’t be any disappointment. We knew what his position was going to be.
Why even bother trying and add salt to injury? Just ignore this issue and have the decency to tell us sweet lies like Obama did. These fucks are useless, khallas fam, khallas
No, bourgeois politicians should actually tell people to get fucked more often. It builds class consciousness like nothing else.
seriously, i wish he would go harder to piss more people off
Did the title of the video change? I swear I saw it say “genocide” instead of “war” when I loaded YouTube this morning…
Bernie has never acnowledged the term genocide wrt to the current situation. He knows it would lead to serious charges against just about every member of the Senate and Congress and he doesn’t want to be “that guy” that gave the incriminating soundbite.
Serious charges? In what world? Every member of Senate, and every member of Congress could sign a letter explicitly saying they love genocide and establishing a minimum quota of children killed per week and there would be no charges. Who is going to charge them? The ICC (lol)?
Bernie also became demented grandad. 🤦♀️
Time to
on the farm upstate grandad
