Original post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3856299?scrollToComments=false

I think we have a general path forward based on community feedback. “We see you, we hear you!”

I went ahead and unpinned the old post. I’m pinning this one for now and will edit this post when I wake up from eepy time. I had a very mid week and have no particular alarm set so be on look out. Love y’all and I’m amped for my first announcement post since coming back. :)

  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    The mods behind this statement should come forward and c/selfcrit. So many people have pointed out the the jacketing the userbase here as cishet white Reddit debatebros is fucked up and hurtful among other issues, and they are cowards for hiding behind CARCOSA. If you have contempt for the users then say it with your whole fucking chest under your own name

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      The fact CARCOSA has the presence of mind to step down (should have just offered it, don’t step down please) and these losers are still just hiding is reprehensible.

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          seems like you are too scared to respond

          Aren’t you on your 20th alt account? Post it under your main, it’s a bit sad at this point

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              whiny loser pissbaby

              Aren’t you on your 20th alt account? Post it under your main, it’s a bit sad at this point

              (I don’t really get piss baby as an insult? If you’ve ever cared for infants you know they piss a lot and you’ll probably get pissed on a few times too)

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              lmao imagine screaming and crying like a toddler and then calling others a baby

              Anyway I found out what you meant I should respond to - The mod response. I did respond to it yesterday, but you probably missed it because it wasn’t one sentence. If you want more effortposts, engage with effort!

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                  A user of hexbear on an alt account keeps attacking people with harsh personal insults and tells them to kys if they disagree with them. They showed up yesterday and have not stopped.

                  The funniest part was them telling me to go die because I’m a chauvinistic white male or something, even though most of the posts I’ve made on this website (and in particular to the community in question, the dunk tank) consist of calling precisely that attitude out and mocking racists, along with high effort posts encouraging users to read theory that counters chauvinism, in particular Samir Amin’s Eurocentrism, and Unequal Development.

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                    Are we allowed to say the names this person uses as more permanent accounts? It seems to me that if it is obvious who this person is, we shouldn’t be shy about “naming and shaming.” But maybe it’s not obvious?

                    I’ll just come out and ask. Is this person who keeps making the debatebro*@thelemmy.club accounts to say cringe wrecker shit and then promptly getting banned the same person who goes by u/HelltakerHomosexual ? The latter being a mod of several comms here? And is HelltakerHomosexual the same person as u/Catradora_Stalinism who was repeatedly temp and permabanned but given warnings and unbanned, then finally truly permanently banned because they simply couldn’t stop wrecking, provoking fights, and being vehemently anti-vegan? IF that is the case, then it’s clear she still can’t stop wrecking.

                    Tagging @[email protected] and @[email protected] since they were insinuating that at least some of the above was true in comments on the post that’s locked now. On the one hand, I realize this is treading dangerously near to drama posting, but I honestly want to know if a past permabanned known wrecker is still an active part of the community and if they are still in fact wrecking like they were before when they got banned. That’s not about drama, and It seems like a fair thing for the community as a whole to know.

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                  Somebody who isn’t getting the mental health service they need are having an episode in the comment section.
                  They’re fighting against chauvinism (people disagreeing with them) by making deaththreats, misgendering people, arguing against non-binary gender identity, calling people “uppity” (which reeks of misogyny/racism) and a bunch of other stuff. Also threatening that we are all going to get banned soon, it’s honestly kinda funny. It’s pretty likely they’re a mod here who is mad people don’t applaud their wack ramblings about the dunk tank being misogynystic and chauvinist and toxic.
                  They’ve also earned me $35 so far, so that’s nice (I won a bet)

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          Lol respond to what? The same thing we’ve gone thru 10 times already? Yeah I’m definitely terrified that this time if I write it out it won’t get ignored by dorks like you

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      They’re saying we’re being misanthropic when we shoot the shit about the absurdities about reactionary thought? I mean, we started out as a fandom for a political comedy podcast for crying out loud. That sort of pop criticism is what drew me left in the first place.

      But, if we’re talking “misanthropic,” I’ve seen reactionary guys who’s brains have been poisoned by consuming nothing but crime stories. They think humans are just naturally violent in some sort of semi-Hobbesean view. Now that’s what I’d consider misanthropic.

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      Lol sorry I couldnt comment on the actual post so I put it here

      Condescending, infantilizing, dismissive, ableist, and incredibly transphobic - what can’t be said about that post? Genuinely fucking wack, the mods responsible can eat my entire ass. Especially at a point in time where the right is attacking trans people with no pushback, the liberals are already starting to abandon us, and our rights and our lives are in more danger then they have been in decades. Coming from a place that was so formative in allowing me to develop my understanding of my own gender is just so so disappointing. We’ve literally done demographic surveys, half the active users aren’t even cis. We’re right back to tone policing and civility politics, yet again. We’re a shitposting site and we always have been, a direct offshoot of a shitposting subreddit. Sorry if I seem misanthropic but it comes with the territory when half the country you live in hates your fucking guts. I’m not going to be a good civil little f-slur and write an effort post explaining why reactionary shithead number 48902507’s opinion is counter-revolutionary, I want their takes ripped to shreds and treated with the disdain that reactionary opinions deserve. Where is your fucking rage? . And then to say that there’s a problem with mysogyny on the dunk comms and call the new comm fucking gossip??? A term meaning vapid and mindless chatter that is deeply associated with misogynyistic attitudes towards women?? Absolutely nasty. Calling it mutual self harm is fucking gross and ableist too. I know well what self harm is, and I don’t need some jumped up power user telling me that getting some laughs or venting our anger at terrible people a bit in a broken, dying world is remotely equivalent to even the most basic forms of SH. Its insulting at best. I would go so far as to say that there were points in my life where having just the tiniest refuge of sanity in a sea of shit kept me from doing worse things to myself than what I’ve already done. Whoever made that analogy specifically needs to pull their head out of their fucking ass.

      If there’s a problem with comm culture then a discussion should have been made about what could be done on both the users, and the mods ends to improve the comms in a more positive direction. Things like - finding a better name, healthier site usage habits, combating misogyny, racism, etc, and pushing back against irony poisoning. But clearly there is a problem with the moderation itself if this is the attitude that the a large portion of the mod team has towards the userbase.

      @[email protected] I think a mod purge or at least deeeep self crit is warranted for the mods who engaged in this display of smug, self righteous, reddit-logo-mod level behavior

      get your laughs while you can, I’m going to go touch-grass for a while change-da-world-1change-da-world-2