• carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    This may be true and if so, bravo for them! But China says shit ALL THE TIME that is totally untrue or has insane caveats. I’ll reserve my thoughts until the results are verified- both claims (power usage, and comparable performance/accuracy).

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      They probably did build it. It’s possible they sourced the necessary chips through intermediaries. Sanctions aren’t going to stop them from getting their hands on small batches.

      Sanctions will prevent them from being able to do this at scale. They can’t source enough high end chips to really build out the infrastructure to take advantage of AI for their economy at large.

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      3 days ago

      And even if it‘s true I‘m curious what it has to say about the Tiananmen Square massacre, Mao’s head count or the Corona pandemic. Huawei’s recent AI model that was developed for the western market failed to answer these and other uncomfortable questions with flying colors. Instead it gets very passive aggressive if you even briefly imply China isn’t the perfect utopia.

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        3 days ago

        Doesn’t chat-gpt do literally the same in case you ask it on anything controversial? I think it is a quite basic thing for AI models.

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          It’s definitely not the same. You can be annoyed that ChatGPT sometimes says “It’s a complicated matter” then mentions some pros and cons but ultimately wants to move on to a different topic. It’s something else when the model says the pandemic originating in Wuhan is a huge lie and evil western propaganda. The Huawei model is very defensive and can quickly sound like an angry child. It’s painfully pro CCP.

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            3 days ago

            Alright, gonna agree somewhat with ChatGPT, they do have one of the better lackluster censors. But even then, models like Bard exist. If you ask those anything related to the Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people for example, it will simply refuse to answer. It is literally the same thing as with Huaweis model

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      4 days ago

      It would be foolish of them to lie considering their model is open source and uploaded to a public repository. The hardware specs for running it are pretty steep, but third parties are already doing it.

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    Why is everyone enjoying a model that is open and very cheap instead of paying an exorbitant amount to US based “open” AI company? And that’s even after the freedom loving US government put sanctions on exporting hardwares?

    Do people really hate “open” and “free” AI so much?

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    4 days ago

    You mean like when we banned them from Gorilla Glass for their phones so they made an even better glass that is now the strongest!?

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    Russia being able to source silicon for their rockets was not enough of confirmation that sanctions are just a PR tactic along with minor inconvenience?

    Jfc, US supplied Israel with uranium for their nuclear program, nobody was punished and government covered it up.

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      Russia being able to source silicon for their rockets was not enough of confirmation that sanctions are just a PR tactic along with minor inconvenience?

      That Russia keeps sourcing Western chips for their rockets does not mean sanctions are “just a PR tactic along with minor inconvenience”. By forcing Russia to buy chips through intermediaries, each of which marks up prices to turn a profit, sanctions (a) drive up their cost, thus limiting what Russia can spend elsewhere, and (b) improve the negotiating power of the states harbouring those sanctions-evading intermediaries at the expense of Russia’s, which further weakens their already shaky international standing.