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✨️🎇🎆🌐🗺🌐🎆🎇✨️@sh.itjust.worksBanned from community to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · il y a 1 an

Is it more moral to source leather from cows or humans?

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Is it more moral to source leather from cows or humans?

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✨️🎇🎆🌐🗺🌐🎆🎇✨️@sh.itjust.worksBanned from community to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · il y a 1 an
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  • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s Rimworld, so making hats out of guests is kind of mandatory.

    • SSETranquility@lemmy.ml
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      That’s so much leather tho

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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        Digging graves takes time and space. Butchering gives resources. You do the math.

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          In Anomaly I feed them all to my Harbinger Trees for more bioferrite!

          But if I had any cannibals, or my Ideoligion didn’t dislike corpses so much, I would probably do things differently.

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    Well, the human can consent, so that would make it perfectly ethical if they do.

    • ✨️🎇🎆🌐🗺🌐🎆🎇✨️@sh.itjust.worksBanned from communityOP
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      this site uses cookies. To continue, you must agree to the terms and conditions. By hitting agree, you agree to the following.

      • blah
      • blah blah
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      • you consent to being turned in to a hat
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      agree?

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        Blindly hits “Agree”.

    • IMongoose@lemmy.world
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      They consented when they tried to raid me.

  • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    This post is brought to you by:

    Glagnar's Human Rinds

    • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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      A Buncha muncha cruncha human!

      • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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        Try it with a Soylent Cola!

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    Why let baby foreskins go to waste is what I always say.

    • 🕸️ Pip 🕷️@slrpnk.net
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      Wait… Don’t tell me you don’t know about the baby foreskin facials???

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        Baby foreskin facials are so wasteful. Why smear them on your face once and discard them when you can make a leather thong from them for years of use?

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      Why human love infant genital mutilation so much?

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        It’s far from universally loved.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Wow, I’m surprised at how much it skews eastwards in the US.

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          I’m not sure what the green is vs the red. I would assume African cultures don’t support it mostly because it seems unlikely that they developed the same arbitrary (religious) surgery. That would however imply that Europe is a lot more supportive of circumcision than I would have expected. Either way I’m surprised.

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            What do you think are the major religions in the continent of Africa? Traditional religions take up less than 10% of religious belief. Yes, less than 10% for all of them combined

            • Ziglin (it/they)@lemmy.world
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              That’s fair. I forgot that we colonized them a little bit less than respectfully.

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            Red is 90–100% circumcised. Green is 0–9%.

          • friendlymessage@feddit.org
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            It’s mostly majority Muslim countries in red with the exception of the Philippines, South Korea, and the US

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      Could you imagine a baby foreskin fanny pack? That way it could hurt everyone involved!

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    I’d donate my body to a Tanner. Cows can’t make this choice in a we can understand at least.

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      Douglas Adams morally safe meat. Cows breed to be smart enough to agree to be food. To the point they will just pop off and off them selves … But don’t worry it will be in a very humane way… And don’t forget to try my rump it’s very juicy…

      This is from the restaurant at the end of the universe btw

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        “How about a salad?”

        “Oh, I know a few vegetables who’d object to that, Sir!”

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    Well in all seriousness, humans can consent and cows can’t (or if they can, they have no unambiguous way to communicate this consent to humans), so human leather is more ethical.

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      And when it’s the only way to keep their family from starving, for example, people will consent in droves, securing supply.

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    Sourcing leather from humans is always morally correct! You will get 50% off for bringing your whole family in!

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        Reminds me of a time in biology class

        Q: What’s a resource everyone has access to?

        A: Water

        Skin.

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    We already kill cows to eat them. Wearing their skin is just using more of their material.

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      Except it’s rarely the same cows

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      Yeah exactly. People dont realize that leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. Most of the cost is in tanning and preparing it.

      So trust me, there is no shortage of skin to make leather

  • Fauxrose [it/its]@vegantheoryclub.org
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    It’s ethical i would say, since humans are an invasive species

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      Jokes like this make me uncomfortable :( there’s legit eco fash positions like this. Invasive species rhetoric is bad applied to all species imho, because killing children for some sort of inherited sin seems unreasonable to me.

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        i forgot people actually think like this 💀

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          We do have to ask if Malthusians are really people…

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        I appreciate you calling out this kind of stuff. It seems like in this instance, OP was just joking, but I’m deeply nervous at how many people are genuinely believing and propagating eco-fascist rhetoric nowadays.

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        You have to be equal opportunity about it. If you start saying this kind but not that kind then it’s just racism ingrouo outgroup bullshit.

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    From the pov of a human or a cow?

    Cow leather is more moral in my pov

    Or is it about sourcing it from them after their natural death?
    Even then cow leather seems more moral

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      What do you base that on? A cow can’t consent to this.

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    please build shelves

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    Depends if your pawns get rebuffs for wearing human skin clothes.

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      Gotta make it a tenet of your tribe’s religion.

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    I mean that’s a screenshot from Rimworld so ethical leather harvesting is a small thing compared to prisoner organ harvesting (Source I play too much Rimworld)

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      You can do both at once >:) Step 1: Obtain prisoners Step 2: Harvest all organs that they can survive without, followed by the second lung or the hat Step 3: Chop up into snack size portions and enjoy your new hat materials.

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      Hey like the chinese did to their political prisoners who wanted freedom!

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    Yes!

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    Depends on the cow and the human.

    If a cow is a dick and harming other cows, moral.

    If the human lives a modest life and pursues charitable acts to make themself happy, immoral.

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      I feel like if a child with a similar level of cognition as the cow harms other children, most people will say they have no moral agency yet, and will still see harvesting their leather as immoral.

      There are two ways to resolve that inconsistency…

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        Finally, humane child slaughter

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