I’m just happy to be here

    • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Ditto, I don’t support the move.

      I want my trans-friendly community on my trans-friendly server, not .world

      We’ll continue there without the current mod team.

        • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 day ago

          Debatable. The dragonfucker story is very nuanced to me.

          From my perspective, dragonfucker clearly came here to be a shit stir and cause chaos. However, it is important to still respect people’s requested gender pronouns. If you think someone’s gender pronouns request is too far-fetched, just don’t interact with / block that person.

          I think banning this individual was the correct move, but misgendering anyone is not okay. Notice I’m avoiding pronouns altogether here to dodge the issue completely.

          I’m not entirely up to date on what went down between the instance and the moderators of this community, but it’s clear communication broke down and this one person was able to create a chasm between the two.

          What I do not like is the lack of communication on the moderators’ end, and it’s very clear that most 196 users do not agree with this move as it has not been properly explained, and moving to a large instance goes against the idea of decentralization.

            • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              20 hours ago

              Come on drag, you’re gonna pull a take like that and then wonder why you’re on their shit list? I know you’re off the wall, but come on dude.

    • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      Welp, they did it. Just not really sure what happens now. I should hope some new members who are a bit more in touch with the community get appointed to the team.

  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 day ago

    Can someone tell me why we are moving and why I should care?

    I’m too busy spamming shitposts to pay much attention.

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    58
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    2 days ago

    Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?

    • SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      1 day ago

      People really don’t like it when a single mod decides to make decisions for the whole community without the support of the community.

      That’s why i support taking 196 away from Ada’s control

      • bdonvrA
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        Did Ada’s actions not have the support of the community or did they not have the support of the mod team? (different things)

        • SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          Well considering she banned all dissenters it’s pretty hard to guage dissent.

          If the initial rule change announcement is taken as a sample then more than half of those comments were removed, so based on that it doesn’t seem like Ada has the support of the real community, ahe just kicked out half the community.

          • bdonvrA
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            All dissenters? Or do you just have a distorted view of things because you personally were banned?

    • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      34
      ·
      2 days ago

      Why should there have been one?

      Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.

      All “we” as users have to do is press the subscribe button.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        If you don’t ask the community first, then what you’re doing is not “moving the community”, it’s just abandoning the community and starting a new one

      • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        32
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.

        Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.

        Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

        Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.

        • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          13
          ·
          2 days ago

          I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

          If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

          Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

          Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

          The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.

          • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.cafe
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            26
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

            They already have their community, it’s [email protected]

            • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              9
              ·
              2 days ago

              This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.

              And again:

              Being able to just leave and set up and run a community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

              Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.

              • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.cafe
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                18
                ·
                2 days ago

                Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own!

                Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                There’s a reason [email protected] exists. One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belong to the users.

                • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                  When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.

                  One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belongs to the users.

                  Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.

          • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            21
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            I belive [sic] that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

            Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.

            • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              2 days ago

              Could be!

              The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not. It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.” I can’t tell.

  • seawoowaes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    Hey so im just a lurker but im really worried about this move:

    We all know Meta just allowed all sorts of vile anti lgbt posting on their platform so how do we know .world isn’t going that way?

    You said you have a line to the top admin, is that Ruud who wants to federate with Threads, a Meta product that will allow transphobia against community members?

    “Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative” - LW admins

    Especially concerning since they are forcing communities to allow dissent, just like Meta, so TERFs can just roll up in this community and you have to allow them?

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      any and all terfs from threads or otherwise will be banned. if threads is added as a federated instance, we will simply add them to our list of probation instances in the rules alongside lemmygrad and hexbear. in addition, the way we run our community does not count as enforcing a narrative. because that rule does not apply to us, we do not have to deal with it.

  • toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    82
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    wait, why not blahaj? I dont get it, it was well moderated there :(

    There should have been more communication or a poll or something, lemmy world is not known for its clean moderation :(

  • blindbunny@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    77
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    2 days ago

    Of all the instances you chose .world? Yeah this party is probably dead

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      20
      ·
      2 days ago

      I wouldn’t be so sure. give it a few days to settle, then let me know how you’re feeling

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      26
      ·
      2 days ago

      some longstanding issues with how blahaj.zone is run. I’ll elaborate more once the transfer settles down.

      • pixely@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        2 days ago

        So you moved the community to another instance without any kind of community consultation (that I can see) and can’t even tell us why? The lack of transparency is a bit concerning.

        • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          16
          ·
          2 days ago

          the lack of transparency is primarily due to not wanting to burn bridges with anyone. sometimes disagreements should stay private.

          • pixely@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            22
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            You’re trading off burning bridges against demonstrating that people can trust your judgement, which I think is essential if you expect people to migrate and prevent blowing up the community.

      • henfredemars@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Aw, that’s a shame. I feel like it reduces instance diversity. With that said, I’m sure you have your reasons. I’m certainly not informed on the subject.

        • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          12
          ·
          2 days ago

          while I do agree that it reduces instance diversity, due to the size of our community, many small instances were apprehensive about taking our community on. it is unfortunate that Lemmy.world is so centralized, but when it comes to a community of our size it is to our benefit

  • miss phant@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    2 days ago

    My first reaction was “ew” and after reading into the reasons I still don’t agree but I respect it. I’m a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been “ongoing for months”, though I’m mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.

    It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      I didn’t hold a poll, because unlike other changes we’ve made to this community this does not affect our policy nor ethos. while the community is now being hosted on a different instance, we are running it exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.

  • ddplf@szmer.info
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    2 days ago

    See now kids, that’s how the real ones like me do ban evasion.

    Don’t go back to the place. Just wait till the place comes to you.

    • EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Yee i got perma’d from old 196 bc I dared to repost an article about election fraud that got deleted. Admitted it turned out to prob not be real, said I wouldn’t do it again, but nope, I said something against Trump so instant permaban straight from Ada. Good riddance :3

    • qaz@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Fyi, you were banned on 2024-10-07 due to these comments:

      📞 yo i think its netanyahu callin, you gonna pick up or? Link

      yes Link

      This obviously has nothing to do with 2024 US presidential elections Link

      Don’t worry, I’ll let the ban evasion slide 😉

      • ddplf@szmer.info
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        18 hours ago

        I’m aware which of my comments contributed to me being banned, and I know everyone can see them, and I’m not afraid to say that I did nothing that would justify the permban.

        Okay, I get it, these may be considered kind of xenophobic-ish-esque-uhh-not-really, but come on dudes. That’s just banter.