He’s just going to get people killed. But that’s ok he doesn’t give a shit anyways, so it’s moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?
a few *million dead peasants
and if another nation attacks while we’re dismantling ourselves, a few *tens of millions dead peasants.
This would immediately isolate the US. Nothing would leave its perimeter.
Moron speaking absolute nonsense yet again.
I hope his submarine implodes
Titan 2.0, you say?
Send Musk up in a rocket, never to return. I like that.
immigration policies are federal regulations on the labor market. i say we open the borders
Side note, Im still not buying this “Worlds richest man” Label.
I believe that title still belongs to Vladimir Putin. his wealth is not published though. He Robbed a vast nation blind to the point that he is a living god in Russia.
If that’s how Putin got rich, Elon is soon to catch up
He mostly lives off debt with tesla being the collateral. Of tesla shares tank hes going to get margin called so to speak
I’ve been reading for 20+ years that the real richest in the world are oil barons in the middle east. I believe a few people are projected to have up to a trillion dollars in assets/wealth etc, but they aren’t celebs or post about it via publicly traded organisations etc.
Who knows though
I mean the House of Saud is worth over a trillion dollars I believe.
Putin could also easily have over a trillion dollars in assets, but they’d obviously be hidden. Does he? We’ll never know.
Putin has Musk and Trump by the balls, for sure.
I think its less of a master giving orders to a dog dynamic, and More of a “I’ll have mine, you have yours” dynamic.
I still dont know if they are fucking crazy enough to try it. but this is whats in the back of my mind with this aggressive and jingoistic rhetoric against Canada, the EU, and Ukraine.
America may have stepped down from the stage of the Free world, and the Free world may very well be finished. but whats left of it still has nuclear weapons.
Get rid of SEC regulations so he can be defrauded on the stock market. Get rid of copyright and trademark laws so his parts can be made by anyone and his company names reused.
Is he including Private Property among these discarded regulations?
Remember that we’re not allowed to call for violence, but it’s okay when Elon does things like this, because allowing industry to poison whole towns isn’t violence, it’s just capitalism.
Sharing the names of Musk’s helpers? Not okay.
Letting nuclear plants operate in a way that risks big swaths of the country uninhabitable? Totally cool.
This horrible for sure, but it’s worth noting they just made it so there are no on-paper repercussions for industry poisoning people. Poor people in rural areas have been getting poisoned (and/or driven from their homes) all along. Major media and unfortunately even EPA officials (as we saw for East Palestine) seem to just ignore or bury it most of the time, similar to the treatment environmental activists have reported when there’s an oil spill/leak and media don’t want to touch it. Here’s the latest example I’ve heard about recently. (I’m not specifically trying to follow this stuff incidentally, but I’m always interested in who corporate media tend to ignore or treat unfairly.)
My power company fucked up my autopay, they then preceeded to not tell me, then they shut off my power without a note or an in person heads up, leaving it indistinguishable from a regular outage until it was dark and my neighbors lights turned on and their billing department was closed for the night. In February.
I’m saying this because all this was illegal thanks to regulations. I reported it to the government because it was danger, irresponsible, and a dick move. I think a lot of people think of regulations as stuff like wheelchair ramps and no knowingly giving entire towns cancer, but it’s also shit like this, that you have to tell people that you shut off their power for non-payment and warn them before you do so they don’t have to spend a night eating takeout by candlelight for no reason.
World’s richest person drunk on power
News at 11
If industrialists can pollute wherever they want, we should be allowed to live wherever we want. Private property is just a regulation at the end of the day.
Rich people can afford private well-armed security guards… (No, the police don’t count since we’re not doing regulations any more)
Well time to stockpile then
The police are the weak armed security guards for rich people…
Why americans even pay taxes?
For the military and giving handouts to billionaires.
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So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.
This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.
“regulations are written in blood” is a quote for a reason
I spent a decade living around Africa, and this kind of thinking is common. DDT was what everyone put on the tomatoes because pests mean loss of food. Who wants that?
Lack of relations is only about living in short-term survival thinking 24/7. Long term effects mean nothing.
DDT isn’t going to cause health problems for the people in Africa. It will cause problems for some birds near the top of the food chain however.
It’s just the easiest example to use. I have maybe dozens more examples that require more storytelling and setup.
Ever had someone try to sell you a car with visible drywall screws holding the bumper on, like you were the dick for pointing them out?
DDT won’t fuck you up if you die in your 20s from unrelated causes
Go read about how horribly adulterated food was in Europe and the US in the 1800s and before. They’d add sawdust to flour, chalk, toxic metals, rotten meat was sold regularly, etc. Patent medicines were essentially drug trafficking or just scams. Soldiers in the Spanish-American war were supplied with canned meat from the US Civil War. I saw an old film from the time the Pure Food and Drug act was passed showing a can of meat being opened and it literally shot out from the gasses inside.
Well, the Libertarians and Republicans had their heads poisoned with total rot like Ayn Rand’s horrible sci-fi, and then spent the past several decades screaming about how derrp, we don’t need no regulations!
Now I guess we all get to find out along with these dolts.
Not to mention the US falling 110% into the cult of individualism. Individualism is fine if it is balanced with the needs of society as a whole. You can’t even get people to chip into schools and roads, shared resources, anymore.
Funny thing with that book it was intended to reveal the horrible working conditions in the industry but instead the public latched onto it as revealing how foul and adulterated food had become.
Exactly
Do you have examples of this stuff happening in continental European countries? I’d love to jump down that rabbit hole.
In the past I’ve read descriptions of systematic bad practices in the industrialized Uk, but I can’t recall reading about similar things happening in other western European countries. Nothing systematic anyhow. I’d image that the french would have had a(nother) revolution if anyone had tried that stuff with their food.
Enjoy!
I think the English were just better at recording it.
https://victorianweb.org/science/health/health1.html
https://edu.rsc.org/feature/the-fight-against-food-adulteration/2020253.article
Here is one in Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esing_Bakery_incident
France passed a food adulteration law in 1905. Many countries were cracking down on it around this time along with the US with the Pure Food and Drug Act under Teddy Roosevelt.
Examples of food adulteration in France in the 1800s:
https://review.gale.com/2020/01/08/wine-adulteration-in-the-nineteenth-century/
Copper-colored vegetables: French beans, cucumbers, and samphires were often colored green with copper. This could have fatal consequences.
Beer: Brewers added substances like copperas, quassia, liquorice juice, and Nux vomica to make beer bitter.
Wine: The wine industry was affected by the Phylloxera epidemic, which destroyed a large proportion of vines. In response, wine adulteration increased.
Confectionery: Arsenic and mercury compounds were used as colorants.
Mustard: Lead chromate was added to mustard.
Meat: Animal health became a concern as meat consumption increased.
Fair point, on the other hand, have you considered line must go up?
Seriously. It’s like no one realizes the literal most important thing in all of the world.
Line go up.
Fuck your family, fuck your health, fuck your safety, fuck yo couch, fuck the environment, LINE GO UP!
C.R.E.A.M.
… Fml
I’m kind of relieved we’re extincting ourselves before we become an interstellar plague of misery, with children being born into inescapable, perpetual oxygen debt to the local corporate leadership on Mars and Titan colonies.
We’d make the Ferengi look like altruists. We were a mistake of evolution.
It took WW3 to fix humans in Star Trek. In that timeline, they outlawed genetic engineering so that elite supermen cannot be made.
In ours, I hope we outlaw millionaires and worse. That way, elite dinguses cannot be born.
It’s the current western dominionist mindset that’s the mistake. Don’t mistake that for all of humanity (even if it currently makes up 90% of it).
As opposed to…who exactly? That one tribe in the sentinel Islands that hasn’t been contacted by modern civilization yet?
Sure. Also many other cultures who have been contacted and haven’t been completely destroyed.
But the point is not that we should copy some tiny tribe’s way of life, the point is that western dominionism is not the only way that humans are capable of organising their societies. There are likely many other ways that have never been tried yet that are much better than what we have now.
So… would you ignore all of recorded history, and most of anthropological records that dictate humanity has always been in a race to find new and exciting ways to kill each other?
In every civilization there comes a time where the interests of the elite grilled too far apart from the interests of the common people. Some kind of correction becomes inevitable. The way this correction plays out and who wins is another matter. But it looks like in the coming decades, maybe centuries, a new to type of economic model gets worked out, based on sustainability first, or very soon new tech is survived that allowed further line going up without destroying the planet. But living through a pivot in history is always a stressful affair.
Yeah I remember wiping my feet on his couch
Rick James from Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories?
R.I.P. Charlie Murphy
What? And sacrifice my bonus?
Think of the money to be made from selling medical care for contaminated food.
They will just call it Freedom Juice™ and write on the packaging that it makes the food taste more better.
I feel like I’m a crazy person, but I’m starting to believe the conspiracy of tech billionaires trying to dismantle the government to create network states. I’m almost certain they will gut the SEC eventually as well, so they can deregulate cryptocurrency. This was a summary I’ve recently read: Day One of Venture Capital Takeover.
Everyone should google Network States and the cities these VC billionaires are trying to create. Stuff like Próspera, Pronomos Capital, Praxis Nation, Bitcoin City in El Salvador, Afropolitan in Africa etc. etc. The same website has long page on it: The Status of the Network State. They are essentially creating sovereign states or cities that aren’t beholden to any local government laws and use their own deregulated cryptocurrencies, so that they can control all the rules and power within.
I have no idea how trustworthy the site I linked is, but I can’t see what they would gain from lying about it
Peter theil has been working on it for at least a decade
For a fee and a background check, one can become a citizen of Mr. Lee’s Greater Hong Kong, Inc., which operates as a sovereign entity within the various territories around the globe in which it has franchises.
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I started reading that as a song and then it’s like the music stops and the singer just breaks down on stage.
Which is a pretty apt description of me the past few days. It was weirdly therapeutic so thanks I guess?
Both Peter Thiel and Musk are incredibly dangerous to America’s democracy. Here’s another choice quote from the site:
Peter Thiel has held “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible” for many years. In 2022, he ripped up $100 dollar bills on stage at the Bitcoin Conference, stating “Bitcoin is the most honest market in the world. It’s the most efficient market… It is telling us that the central banks are bankrupt, that we are at the end of the fiat money regime.” In a 2024 podcast, he stated “Liberalism is exhausted, one suspects that democracy, whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window." PayPal was originally founded to replace the US dollar. Peter Thiel stated in his book, Zero to One: “PayPal had a suitably grand mission — the kind that post-bubble skeptics would later describe as grandiose. We wanted to create a new internet currency to replace the US dollar.” PayPal’s “co-founder” was Elon Musk, showing both parties aimed to replace the US dollar from a very early date in their careers. Marc Andreessen has also been instrumental in financing the rise of Bitcoin.
Let’s not forget about JD Vance, the current Vice President, who after a talk Thiel did at Yale Law School, described it as “the most significant moment of my time” at the institution. He later went on to be mentored by Thiel and joined one of his VC companies. He also received about $15 million dollars in donation from Thiel for his Senate campaign in 2022 which was ultimately successful. This was the largest amount donated to a single Senate candidate ever. Forbes published a good timeline of Thiel and Vance’s relationship last year.
Bitcoin City in El Salvador will never happen now, because they no longer have it as legal tender.
That’s hopeful to hear, but just reading the article, two things stand out:
The reform eliminated the word “currency” when referring to bitcoin, but says it is “legal tender.” Despite the lack of clarity, it lifts, as required by the IMF, the obligation to accept it in transactions or debt payments, a key condition for it to be “legal tender,” according to economic analysts. With the change, “if someone owes you money and wants to pay you in bitcoin, you can refuse to be paid in bitcoin, but you cannot refuse if it’s legal tender,” economist Carlos Acevedo explained.
The government, she assured, will continue buying bitcoin and having reserves in this cryptocurrency. According to the National Bitcoin Office, El Salvador has 6,050 bitcoins worth $634.8 million. “President Bukele continues buying bitcoin, we have a Bitcoin Office, we have the Bitcoin Law, bitcoin can be used in El Salvador. It hasn’t been an easy road,” Mayorga summarized.
They are just removing it as “legal tender” to meet the conditions for an IMF loan and will continue investing in bitcoin.
Decades upon decades of progress are going to be gone by the end of this.
We’ll spend the rest of our lives living in a system slowly being rebuilt, if we even get that lucky.
There goes our futures. And we voted for it.
Truly a shit nation full of shit people.
Voting ourselves out of a democracy was always a choice.
Imagine us growing up at the peak of civilization (1999, per the Matrix) and not knowing it.
Now we’re going back to the 1800s with robber barons and 20 hour/7day workweeks.
With RFK Jr pitching in, you’re going back hundreds of years.
Yes, but the libruls made them do this, because woke/dei/crt and the trans. The amount of actual TDS (transphobic derangement syndrome) out there is something to behold.
The crazies are obsessed with trans and other bullshit that has no impact on their lives (b-roll of migrant caravans, poor people living high on the hog on steak and lobster, etc) that they are completely willing to end democracy over it. Not even fucking kidding. It’s one thing when you see the elites saying democracy is over, it needs to be shunted aside so they can rule, it’s quite another when they have convinced a lot of stupid peasants to say the same kind of shit. As if the peasants’ lives won’t be remarkably worse under what the elites have planned…
The wounds are too deep for rebuilding, imo. Even if we do get the chance, there’s just not enough Band-Aids, political will, and time in four years for the democrats to repair it. We’re facing the complete implosion of our federal government and its legitimacy along with it.
The worst part is that there’s not enough of an organized opposition to stop it, or even really slow it down. Neither major political party acts in favor of the people; major news outlets and social networking tools are owned by billionaires; a sizeable chunk of the country is perfectly OK with getting ratfucked so long as José next door gets it worse. We aren’t facing the implosion of the USA into a TechnoFascist Hellscape, we’re LIVING IT.
Then be the political organization. Call your elected official. Meet with your local advocacy group or non profit. They are organizing you just have to find them.
B-bu-but grandstanding uncommitted Jill Steiners told me not to worry and they’re all the same though!!?
Well, keep in mind that Biden was indecisive about Gaza…
Dude literally parroted the IDF and shut down any actual war crimes investigation. He was very decisive, in the wrong way.
He bears culpability for Trump winning for two reasons. Because it’s idiotic to expect the key Arab American demographic in Michigan, a key battleground state, to vote for a pro Gaza Genocide party. And because he didn’t know when to get out of the way. He tried to hold on for so long the Democrats couldn’t run a primary or actual campaign.
Biden’s legacy is death and Trump’s return.
No no no, the culpability is 100% with the American people. They had two options: the dude who agrees with everything the IDF says and does and the dude that goes far beyond the Israeli far right wildest dreams. There was no other option. It was a choice between a bad sandwich and a pile of shit and people focused on how the sandwich age and lack of caviar. Enjoy the shit! Maybe you can have some more at Trump Gaza Resort.
Lmao blame the people… Yup. That’s a winning strategy every time.
Biden was the right vote over Trump, even on the issue of Gaza. However, it’s fucked up to minimize Biden’s culpability in the Gaza genocide this way. He wasn’t indecisive, he was complicit and was actively involved in helping Israel lie and obfuscate. Maybe we as a country deserve Trump, or maybe we don’t, but Biden and Harris did not deserve to win.
I don’t agree with the last statement.
There’s “continue with previously agreed weapons shipments to Israel” and there’s “let’s make Gaza a parking lot, invade Greenland, and ship these brown people to Guantanamo, citizens or not”.
Biden/Harris were not perfect, but they were the proverbial one-eyed person… vs a blind donkey.
Don’t forget that Trump is also talking about shifting control of Gaza to the US for some godforsaken reason (it’s beachfront property and his real estate mogul friends will make tons of cash building resorts on mass graves and skeletons).
Context is important to discern meaning. Biden, the person, deserves nothing better than a jail cell. Harris too, on some level, though she’s not as directly complicit. I voted for Harris anyways, because it was worth accepting that grave injustice to keep Trump out of power.
It was worth accepting that grave injustice to prevent and even bigger injustice.
We warned against Trump not because we dislike the guy, or his hair or his ties, we warned people that Trump would be even worse than whatever they/you disliked about the Biden admin.
It took him weeks to propose deporting 2M people from their own homeland and building a Trump hotel on the beachfront property left behind.
Are you just reading every other sentence or something? I voted for Harris. I didn’t need you to tell me to vote for Harris. I’d rather see Harris in prison than the Whitehouse, but I’d rather see Harris in the Whitehouse than Trump.
But, if we want to talk about warnings, I warned people like you that preaching at voters was more likely to make them stay home than vote for your candidate. Pointing out why Harris was better than Trump on Gaza was good, but the constant preaching and harassing attitude could easily have lost Harris the election. The fact that it didn’t end with the election is insane. It shows that your motivations were to virtue signal instead of helping Harris win.
What the fuck is “deserve”?
Representative democracy is the system where people get the government that they deserve.
Don’t worry. WW3 will be the world against the US within the next decade.
Is a decade ten months now?
Feels that way
The future is a foreign land.
Most of them are just caught in the gears of history. It’s not as if voting was ever mandatory or generally made available to the working class.
But yes, a nation asleep at the wheel for the most part. It’s such a pity.
You are …and only a handful of people are going to be better off for it. It’s fucking wank, and it’s not just USians that are going to feel the hit, cause many other countries will use you as a blueprint.
