• Cimbazarov [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    That actually doesn’t give me confidence in the CPC. If the US government officials were STEM brains we’d be even further cooked than we are now. They are all Dunning-Kruger’s when it comes to economics

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      The problem with STEM brained people isn’t the interest in science, but rather how they only look at science in terms of money or profit. They also dismiss anything outside of their chosen field because it all becomes a pissing contest. This isn’t everyone in STEM, just a widespread attitude and a symptom of what created it, exploitative American capitalism.

      I don’t know much about the Chinese education system, but it’s better than ours in most things so I’m gonna guess it gives a more rounded education on science including ethical considerations and its history. Xi Jinping studied chemical engineering for instance and he’s not someone I’d call a STEM brain.

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        In my experiences, Chinese tech bros are on average definitely significantly more well rounded in humanities and much more intelligent in non-math/tech fields than their Western counterparts. Much less ego and arrogance too

        This only applies to the ones that only studied in China and recently moved to US for work though, the Chinese ones I’ve met who did studied post secondary here and lived in America for 10+ years act way closer to your American tech bro

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          Chinese tech bros are on average definitely significantly more well rounded in humanities

          Half my classmates in engineering school were Chinese nationals, this isn’t true at all.

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            So my experiences is a pretty extreme end of the spectrum of tech bros. I’m comparing against largely MIT/Stanford/Berkeley/CMU tech lords grinding their ass off to climb the corporate ladder in big tech

            I compare the talks about politics at work between the Chinese group chats and the English group chats and the Chinese people definitely have a much better understanding of what’s going on. The English group chat discussions is literally indistinguishable from r/worldnews level of intelligence

            And to be clear, I’m not saying they’re very well rounded, just more so than the low bar for American tech bros lol

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      I think a bit more scientific method would be great in economics, and I think we’ve seen that with the CPC, e.g. in having local experiments before rolling out broader changes, and in accepting when something doesn’t work.

      Contrast with trickle down economics with tons of experiments and evidence that it doesn’t work (Kentucky), and economists still push for it. Obviously in the US the goal isn’t that things work better, so naturally the conclusion will be that we need more concentration of wealth.

      But approaching government policies scientifically, based on gathering data, hypothesis, experiment design, peer review, etc all sounds pretty reasonable.

      Where things gets yucky is when STEM brains decide that they know better than other folks, and hopefully that’s kept in check.

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      But that’s through a capitalist lense where we assume they will sell out for the bourgeoisie instead of the proletariat. They have no reason not to be educated champions of the people when it is rewarded in China.